<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">SignWriting List<div>September 3, 2012</div><div><br></div><div>Hello Jessica and everyone -</div><div><br></div><div>Welcome to the SignWriting List, Jessica. And congratulations on your project…I enjoyed visiting your research web site:</div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold; ">Machine Translation of SASL</span></div><div><a href="http://www.cs.ru.ac.za/research/g09h2318/">http://www.cs.ru.ac.za/research/g09h2318/</a></div><div><br></div><div>I am preparing an answer for you now, and will post it in a few hours - </div><div><br></div><div>While you are waiting, have you visited our Linguistics Forum?</div><div><br></div><div>SignWriting Linguistics Forum</div><div><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/linguistics/linguistics.html">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/linguistics/linguistics.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>Did you see the old research done years ago comparing the three systems? Scroll down to find those articles…number 14 and 15 on that page for example...</div><div><br></div><div>Writing the Same Signs in Different Notation Systems</div><div><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/linguistics/ling001.html">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/linguistics/ling001.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>it goes on for many pages on the web so keep clicking on Next Page icon…</div><div><br></div><div>Joe Martin, who wrote the comparison between the Stokoe and SignWriting systems, is here on this List…Joe did an excellent job on the comparison:</div><div><br></div><div>Comparing Stokoe and SignWriting</div><div><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/linguistics/ling008.html">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/linguistics/ling008.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>More soon from me - and i hope others will answer too -</div><div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>--------</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><br></div><div><div>On Sep 3, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Jessica Hutchinson wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Hi everyone<br><div class="gmail_quote"><br>My name is Jessica Hutchinson. I am a Computer Science/Linguistics postgraduate student at
Rhodes University, South Africa, doing a research project in machine
translation of sign languages. My research involves looking at the
various notations used to represent sign languages and
making a comparison in terms of how effectively each of them can be
parsed by a computer. The results of my research I hope will further improve the area of Sign-To-Text translation.<br><br>I would like to build a couple of small systems that do
statistical translation from sign notation to English text, for each of
the main notations (starting with Sign Writing, HamNoSys and Stokoe). To
do this, however, I need quite a bit of data, and I have had trouble
finding any kind of parallel corpus for these notations. I am hoping to do the translation on a sentence-by-sentence
basis, so the kind of data I am looking for would be sentences in a sign
language matched to sentences in English. I'm expecting ASL to be most
accessible, and for comparison's sake
would prefer each notation in the same language, but anything will be
useful.<br><br>Furthermore, data would need to be in some kind of format that a computer would be able to process - images in a pdf file aren't going to work so well!<br><br>If anyone can help me to find that data that I need, I would greatly appreciate it.<br>
<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Jessica Hutchinson<br>Research website: <a href="http://www.cs.ru.ac.za/research/g09h2318" target="_blank">http://www.cs.ru.ac.za/research/g09h2318</a>
</div><br>
</blockquote></div><br></div><div>----</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><br><div apple-content-edited="true">
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div>Val ;-)<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; ">Valerie Sutton</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; ">SignWriting List moderator</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; "><a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org">sutton@signwriting.org</a></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; ">Post Messages to the SignWriting List:</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; "><a href="mailto:sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu">sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; ">SignWriting List Archives & Home Page</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; "><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist</a></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; ">Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; "><br></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; "><a href="http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1">http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1</a></span></div></span></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#179250" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; "><br></span></font></span></font></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); min-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; ">SignWriting</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; ">Read & Write Sign Languages</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; "><a href="http://www.SignWriting.org/">http://www.SignWriting.org</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); min-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; "><br></div></div></div></div></span></div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(50, 17, 253); font-size: 12px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); ">SignPuddle Online</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); ">Write SignWriting in the Clouds!</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); ">Documents, Dictionaries, SignMail</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); "><a href="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle">http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle</a></div></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); min-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; ">SignWriting Wiki</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; ">Wiki-style Articles in Sign Languages</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; "><a href="http://www.signbank.org/wiki">http://www.signbank.org/wiki</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); min-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; ">SignWriting List</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; ">Technical Support: Ask questions...</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; "><a href="http://www.SignWriting.org/forums/swlist">http://www.SignWriting.org/forums/swlist</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); min-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; ">SignWriting Literature Project</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; ">Writing Literature in Sign Languages</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; "><a href="http://www.SignWriting.org/literature">http://www.SignWriting.org/literature</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); min-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; ">SignWriting Encyclopedia Projects</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; ">Writing Encyclopedias in Sign Languages</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; "><a href="http://www.SignWriting.org/encyclopedia">http://www.SignWriting.org/encyclopedia</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); min-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; ">SignWriting Sponsors Forum</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; ">Help Educational Non-Profit Organization</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; "><a href="http://www.SignWriting.org/forums/sponsors">http://www.SignWriting.org/forums/sponsors</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); min-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; ">SignWriting Shop</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; ">Books, DVDs, Lessons, Services</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; "><a href="http://www.SignWriting.org/shop">http://www.SignWriting.org/shop</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); min-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; ">Deaf Action Committee For SignWriting</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; ">Center For Sutton Movement Writing</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; ">a US educational nonprofit organization</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; ">PO Box 517, La Jolla, CA, 92038, USA</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; ">Tel: 858-456-0098 Skype: valeriesutton</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); min-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; ">SignWriting on Twitter</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; "><span style="text-decoration: underline; "><a href="http://twitter.com/signwriting">http://twitter.com/signwriting</a></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(50, 17, 253); "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); "><br></div></span></div></div></div></div></span></div></span></div></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(23, 146, 80); font-size: 12px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); ">SignWriting on YouTube</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); "><u><a href="http://youtube.com/signwriting">http://youtube.com/signwriting</a></u></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); ">SignWriting on Facebook</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Arial; color: rgb(23, 146, 80); "><u><a href="http://facebook.com/SignWriting">http://facebook.com/SignWriting</a></u></div></div></span></span>
</div>
<br></body></html>