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Hi Oscar,<br>
I am running Windows 7 too and I'm not having that issue. I am
glad you are trying it out so that I can get the bugs out before the
first release.<br>
Let me get back to you in a couple minutes.<br>
<br>
Jonathan<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/1/2012 12:13 PM, Oscar Koller
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:5069DD49.9000708@gmail.com" type="cite">Hi
Jonathan,
<br>
<br>
trying to run your program, it gives me an error when trying to
start: string was not recognized as valid datetime.
<br>
<br>
any idea?
<br>
i am running it on windows 7.
<br>
<br>
oscar
<br>
<br>
Am 01.10.2012 16:28, schrieb Jonathan Duncan:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<br>
On 10/1/2012 7:02 AM, Oscar Koller wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hi Charles,
<br>
<br>
thanks for your answer.
<br>
<br>
> Oscar, as you have an assistant annotating video tapes,
trying to
<br>
> translate in your head to an expressive point of view may
be driving
<br>
> you crazy.
<br>
<br>
Yes, I have been thinking about that too. And it would be
preferable
<br>
to do annotation from the receptive view point. However, I
need the
<br>
transcriptions in an expressive view point in order to match
all the
<br>
other entries in SignPuddle (as I use them to initialise my
system).
<br>
The manual annotations are intended to serve as evaluation of
the
<br>
initialized system, thus they need to match.
<br>
<br>
If there was an automatic (mathematical) way of converting
receptive
<br>
into expressive view points, then we could do the "easier"
annotation.
<br>
But I learnt from Steve Slevinski, that this has not been
implemented
<br>
and to me it doesn't seem trivial to implement it.
<br>
<br>
Or does anybody think differently?
<br>
</blockquote>
Hi Oscar,
<br>
I am Jonathan Duncan the programmer of SignWriter Studio.
<br>
Converting from expressive to receptive and vice versa is
something I am
<br>
interested in programming someday but other more important
features of
<br>
my program are taking precedence at this time.
<br>
<br>
I have to agree that it isn't very trivial to implement.
Additional
<br>
information about the relationships between the symbols in the
sign
<br>
would need to be entered or inferred to do it properly.
<br>
<br>
Jonathan
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<br>
Regards, Oscar.
<br>
<br>
<br>
Am 28.09.2012 13:51, schrieb Charles Butler:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Oscar, as you have an assistant
annotating video tapes, trying to
<br>
translate in your head to an expressive point of view may be
driving you
<br>
crazy. One project in Belo Horizonte is using receptive
SignWriting
<br>
specifically when annotating video tapes so that you see
parallel
<br>
movements, not mirror movements when you look at them side
by side. You
<br>
write what you see on the videotape, not reverse it to your
own hands.
<br>
<br>
What this means is that the videotaped person's left hand is
on your
<br>
right, and the videotaped person's right hand is on your
left. You have
<br>
to remember that you are writing another person's hands, not
your own,
<br>
so when you look in a dictionary like Delegs or any of the
current
<br>
SignPuddles, you will not find what you see on a videotape,
but its
<br>
expressive equivalent.
<br>
Charles Butler
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a>
<br>
240-764-5748
<br>
Clear writing moves business forward.
<br>
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*From:* Charles Butler <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM"><chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM></a>
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*To:* <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>
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*Sent:* Friday, September 28, 2012 7:29 AM
<br>
*Subject:* Re: help with signwriting
<br>
<br>
Oscar,
<br>
<br>
Reply, in the first sign, you are using a "both hands" arrow
when the
<br>
hands are moving separately. If you are bringing the hands
back toward
<br>
yourself, you need two arrows toward yourself, put them next
to each
<br>
hand rather than in the middle. This is a common mistake as
I'd be able
<br>
to read it, but the hands are not moving in a common path.
This is a
<br>
common mistake, a single arrow is only used when both hands
are actually
<br>
together.
<br>
<br>
In the second sign, your left hand is pointed downward, but
you are
<br>
using a right hand arrow moving twice. Use a left hand arrow
or a right
<br>
hand, not a mix. You could move your right hand in this
fashion, but
<br>
your hand would be twisted outward rather awkwardly,
unlikely that this
<br>
is what you mean.
<br>
Charles Butler
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a>
<br>
240-764-5748
<br>
Clear writing moves business forward.
<br>
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*From:* Oscar Koller <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:oscar.koller@GMAIL.COM"><oscar.koller@GMAIL.COM></a>
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*To:* <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>
<br>
*Sent:* Friday, September 28, 2012 6:06 AM
<br>
*Subject:* help with signwriting
<br>
<br>
Hello everybody,
<br>
<br>
I added following appended 4 entries to the German Sign
Puddle. The
<br>
editors noted in each case that the writing is not correct.
Could
<br>
anybody explain to me, what should be changed?
<br>
<br>
Thanks
<br>
Oscar.
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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<br>
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