Hi André and Adam,<br><br>André shame you haven't got any answer. There are some illustrations in Cross-linguistic Guide, as I wrote, but we need more, because all symbols are not clear.<br>It is enough to make it in the way it was done in the Guide.<br>
<br>Thanks.<br>I hope it is not too much work for people who understand the symbols well.<br><br>Honza<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 5 December 2012 17:46, Adam Frost <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com" target="_blank">icemandeaf@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>The problem is getting photos to match the feel of what the symbols mean. It hard to get someone who can do the expressions well. Maybe if we could make a animation or do a drawing would be best, but just haven't gotten to it at this time.</div>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div></font></span><div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">Adam</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br><br>On Dec 5, 2012, at 8:12 AM, "André Thibeault" <<a href="mailto:atg@VIDEOTRON.CA" target="_blank">atg@VIDEOTRON.CA</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div></div></div><div><div class="h5"><div><span></span></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>Hi Honza,</div><div><br></div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>I already asked your same question before. I didn't get an answer.</div>
<div><br></div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Photos for facial expressions and Mundbilder (mouthing) systems are good for Deafian people.</div><div><br></div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Best regards,</div>
<div><br></div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>André</div><div><br></div><span><div style="border-right:medium none;padding-right:0in;padding-left:0in;padding-top:3pt;text-align:left;font-size:11pt;border-bottom:medium none;font-family:Calibri;border-top:#b5c4df 1pt solid;padding-bottom:0in;border-left:medium none">
<span style="font-weight:bold">De : </span> Honza <<a href="mailto:honza@RUCE.CZ" target="_blank">honza@RUCE.CZ</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Répondre à : </span> "SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages" <<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date : </span> Wed, 05 Dec 2012 12:01:43 +0100<br><span style="font-weight:bold">À : </span> <<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Objet : </span> Re: Facial expressions<br></div><div><br></div>Hi Valerie and Stefan,<br><br>Stefan - I use your "Mundbilder" (but only for part of words). We are not sure if it is necessary or not to write whole words, so we write just few letters of each word.<br>
<br>Thank you Val, yes I know there are many explanations, but it is not exact.<br>
Best are pictures. I found some in Cross-linguistic Guide, but there are only some - especially there are only 3-4 eyebrow patters.<br><br>thanks<br>Honza<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 4 December 2012 23:49, Stefan Wöhrmann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@gebaerdenschrift.de" target="_blank">stefanwoehrmann@gebaerdenschrift.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="blue" style="word-wrap:break-word" lang="DE"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB">Hi Valerie and friends, <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB">In addition to that we
discussed again and again my “Mundbilder” system – smile <u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">You find it in my “Handbuch zur
GebärdenSchrift”<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB">It is helpful to
describe/write down that part of information coming from the lips of a signer
if it is not meant as “mouth gesture” but associated with given words in the
spoken language of that country. ... <u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:bold" lang="EN-GB">From:</span></font></b><font><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font><font><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sw-l/post?postID=eX1fyiHOzzKQUuvcaUzyQV0Gu4y7gag6j-QOLT_m0Gpfy827Xzn5oTcAGRKq4K3pyUI_zkjmHs92tx_3PsYP-XkH" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-GB">SignWriting List</span></a></span></font><font><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:bold" lang="EN-GB">Date:</span></font></b><font><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-GB"> Monday, August 18, 2003 22:34:20<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:bold" lang="EN-GB">To:</span></font></b><font><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font><font><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sw-l/post?postID=lbZFCR3OQRINuKb31IOCm18gmqsKM-7sodN4LiN3PDWkwYJXa1kgxb6biu-ZvKk3yeDvLpJ7OmI08bjXnDEUh8EHGQ" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-GB">SW-L@...</span></a></span></font><font><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:bold" lang="EN-GB">Subject:</span></font></b><font><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-GB"> Mouthings- question for Stefan<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB">All best <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB">Stefan <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><hr align="center" size="2" width="100%"></span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal">
<b><font face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Von:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> SignWriting
List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Im Auftrag von </span></b>Valerie Sutton<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Gesendet:</span></b> Dienstag, 4. Dezember
2012 21:38<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">An:</span></b><a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Betreff:</span></b> Re: Facial expressions</span></font><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">SignWriting List<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">December 4, 2012<u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Find information on Facial Expression symbols in SignWriting….Go to the
International SignWriting Alphabet 2010 Reference web page:<u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">ISWA 2010 HTML Reference Guide<u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><a href="http://www.signbank.org/iswa/" target="_blank">http://www.signbank.org/iswa/</a><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">scroll down and click on:<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Category 4: Head & Faces<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><a href="http://www.signbank.org/iswa/cat_4.html" target="_blank">http://www.signbank.org/iswa/cat_4.html</a><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">scroll down and click on:<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">SymbolGroup 22: Head<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><a href="http://www.signbank.org/iswa/2ff_sg.html" target="_blank">http://www.signbank.org/iswa/2ff_sg.html</a><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">SymbolGroup 23: Brow Eyes Eyegaze<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><a href="http://www.signbank.org/iswa/30a_sg.html" target="_blank">http://www.signbank.org/iswa/30a_sg.html</a><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">SymbolGroup 24: Cheeks Ears Nose Breath<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><a href="http://www.signbank.org/iswa/32a_sg.html" target="_blank">http://www.signbank.org/iswa/32a_sg.html</a><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">SymbolGroup 25: Mouth Lips<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><a href="http://www.signbank.org/iswa/33b_sg.html" target="_blank">http://www.signbank.org/iswa/33b_sg.html</a><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">SymbolGroup 26: Tongue Teeth Chin Neck<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><a href="http://www.signbank.org/iswa/359_sg.html" target="_blank">http://www.signbank.org/iswa/359_sg.html</a><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Every symbol is listed with names in English beside each symbol.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">These symbols are used in several software programs, including
SignPuddle (<a href="http://www.SignPuddle.org" target="_blank">www.SignPuddle.org</a>)
and SignWriter Studio (<a href="http://www.SignWriterStudio.com" target="_blank">www.SignWriterStudio.com</a>).<u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
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