<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">SignWriting List<div>January 1st, 2013</div><div><br></div><div>Hello SignWriting List -</div><div><br></div><div>I realize now that I placed the wrong date on my message below - it is now 2013, not 2012!</div><div><br></div><div>HAPPY NEW YEAR everyone!</div><div><br></div><div>And it will be a blessed year for all of us, I know!</div><div><br></div><div>Dali sent me the sign he was referring to…and I like the way you wrote this sign, Dali. It is very good and easy to read. The fingers are directed up, as they look in real life…keep it just as it is…</div><div><br></div><div>The symbols are flopped and turned to look as they do in real life as much as possible, so there is not one direction for any of these hand symbols - they can be placed at different angles depending on what looks the best for each position -</div><div><br></div><div><img height="228" width="250" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" id="1f1821a0-1b01-4345-ab50-8695da309df5" src="cid:C3F3BBB2-548E-4598-BB28-C00660F63FBD"></div><div><br></div><div>------------------------</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jan 1, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Valerie Sutton wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><base href="x-msg://20/"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">SignWriting List<div>January 1, 2012</div><div><br></div><div>We are not asking you to re-write anything, Dali - I do not expect you to re-write your whole SignPuddle at all - there are different ways to use the hand symbols, so please do not worry - Go right ahead and write the hand symbols as you feel works best for you - It was important to understand the Surface Symbols correctly because that is an actual error in the book, but the hand symbols are used in different ways around the world -</div><div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>------</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On Jan 1, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="DE" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">Hi Dali balti,<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">can you add sp,e examples to explain what you are talkin about?<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">All the best<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">Stefan<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-align: center; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold; ">Von:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Im Auftrag von<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>Dali balti<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Gesendet:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mittwoch, 2. Januar 2013 01:11<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">An:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Betreff:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>White color - Key handshape is not practical</span></font><o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: black; ">Hello dear friends and happy new year!!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: black; ">Everyone of us knows the "key handshape"!!! in the old manuals, when this key is written with white color I find it very practical to write the thumb and the index in an opposite direction to the black, it is very obvious as you can see it with your own eyes!!!! But, in the new book made by dear Valerie and brother Adam Frost, I noticed that whatever the color was, the fingers have always the same direction and orientation!!!! I am puzzled, and I have to correct my whole signpuddle!!!! I found myself obliged to "imagine" it black if I wanted to write it white!!!! please can you consider this case!!! it is not practical at all!!!! Sorry to tell you that, but it is very puzzling, and I think that many might sense the same trouble!!!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>