<html><head><base href="x-msg://53/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">SignWriting List<div>January 6, 2013</div><div><br></div><div>Hello Stefan -</div><div>Thanks for this message. I love your work and it is great software too!</div><div><br></div><div>So you are writing the sign for QUOTE, rather than use the old Quote symbols that are two diagonal lines? // ……. \\</div><div><br></div><div>I like that too…seems more natural for written sign languages…</div><div><br></div><div>We are enjoying the Signbook.app, by the way, and I will give some feedback later - hopefully this week -</div><div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>-----</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jan 6, 2013, at 3:49 AM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="DE" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">Hi Dali, Valerie and friends –<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><span class="apple-style-span"><font size="4" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Arial; ">So how do we write quotes in horizontal writing? – smile</span></font></span><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue; ">translation of exact signed German written in spoken language<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font><span class="hps"><font color="blue"><span lang="EN" style="color: blue; ">is a typical</span></font></span><font color="blue"><span lang="EN" style="color: blue; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">problem that</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">I have to</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">overcome</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">every day</span>.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">In school,</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">I give to the</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">deaf</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">students</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">worksheets that</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">you can</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">quickly</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">create</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>with<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">our</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">wonderful</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">Delegs</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">program</span>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 12pt; color: blue; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 12pt; color: blue; "><a href="http://www.delegs.com/delegseditor/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.delegs.com/delegseditor/</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 12pt; color: blue; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><span class="hps"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 12pt; color: blue; ">For me it</span></font></span><font color="blue"><span lang="EN" style="color: blue; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">is important that</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">the students</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">can</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">learn the correct</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">spelling and punctuation</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">of spoken language without much difficulty.</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">I add a typical worksheet as PDF. You can see</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">that I</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">often</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">quote</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">by</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">performing</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">the gesture for quote</span>.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">This happens</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">at the exact spot</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">where the</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">citation</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">should also appear</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">in the written</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">record.</span><br><span class="hps">Kind regards</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="hps">and good luck</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 12pt; color: blue; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><span class="hps"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 12pt; color: blue; ">Stefan</span></font></span><font color="blue"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color: blue; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-align: center; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold; ">Von:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Im Auftrag von<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>Valerie Sutton<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Gesendet:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Samstag, 5. Januar 2013 19:05<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">An:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Betreff:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: Punctuation</span></font><o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">SignWriting List<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">January 5, 2013<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">On Jan 5, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Valerie Sutton wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><span style="orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; widows: 2; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-spacing: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><span class="apple-style-span"><font size="4" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Arial; ">So how do we write quotes in vertical writing? That is a good question…I would tend to write the sign for QUOTE in the beginning, before the quoted phrase, and then place double bracket after the sign for QUOTE, and then write the phrase…I can create a diagram of this later today and post it to the SW List -</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></div></span></blockquote></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Here is how I might write a quoted phrase…How do others write quoted phrases vertically? Please tell us everyone -<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Here is my current idea - It says: Quote: I feel good: he said.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "></span></font></div></div></div></div></span></blockquote></div></div></body></html>