Makes sense, and I think the concept's great! I'm very interested.<br>Best,<br>Kim from Boston<br>who's too busy self-publishing her "great American Deaf novel" and performing ASL-interpreted concerts to do much more than lurk among the SignWriters these days ...<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:erhoffma@oberlin.edu" target="_blank">erhoffma@oberlin.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
KJ and Ingvild: wonderful, thanks!<br><br>Claudia: Thank you, these are great questions. I first wanted to gauge whether there would be enough interest before I developed this idea further. And I welcome feedback from the group about how to best proceed. <br>
<br>But initially, here are my thoughts: I definitely don't want isolated words or sentences, but rather a longer passage (we can decide the length together, based on the time you all have available, but I'd like a couple of paragraphs at least). We can think together about the best source: any suggestions? <br>
<br>Individual authors could perhaps decide whether they want to film a translation in the relevant sign language and then transcribe from that OR just directly translate into writing. And that detail could be part of the contextualizing information for each text. <br>
<br>Claudia, you'd be welcome to participate in an analytical discussion of the texts without producing one. But, regarding your concern about being "too hearing": I do fervently hope that many Deaf signers will participate, but I also don't want to exclude texts made my hearing SignWriters who want to participate. I will want to contextualize each text with information about the author's background and experience with the relevant sign language. <br>
<br>One of the reasons I welcome multiple texts in each language and by writers of all backgrounds is that I'm not going to be arguing in the book that a given text is a perfect representation of ASL or LIBRAS in some kind of abstract uniform sense. Rather I'd like to explore the different ways in which SignWriters of all backgrounds use the writing system to explore, represent and (explicitly or implicitly) analyze various sign languages. <br>
<br>I realize that some of you have different interests or are working in different disciplines with different goals (such that what will count as appropriate data for Claudia will be different than what is appropriate data for me). That's part of what I'd like to discuss in my book actually, the ways in which your goals in using SignWriting affect the choices you make in creating texts. So it's already, for me, useful to know that Claudia feels that she is too hearing to produce a text for scientific study, a feeling that makes sense given her discipline. <br>
<br>Does this make sense? I hope I'm not slipping into jargon of my field :)<br><br>Thanks all! I'm really excited to work with you on this project! <br><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>Erika</font></span><div class="HOEnZb">
<div class="h5"><br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:erhoffma@oberlin.edu" target="_blank">erhoffma@oberlin.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span lang="pt"><span>Oi</span>!<span></span><br><span>Maravilhoso!</span> <span>Eu espero que você</span> <span>participe!</span> <span>O Brasil é</span> <span>um lugar tão importante</span> <span>para</span> <span>SignWriting</span><span>!</span></span><br>
Wonderful! I hope you will participate! Brazil is such an important place for SignWriting!<div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Aldenisa Peixoto da Silva <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:isalibras123@hotmail.com" target="_blank">isalibras123@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<br>Oi Erika, <div><br></div><div>... Maravilhosa ideia.</div><div><br></div><div>Att; Isalibras<br><div><div></div><hr>Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 23:49:38 +0100<br>From: <a href="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE" target="_blank">stefanwoehrmann@GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE</a><br>
Subject: AW: idea for SW book<div><div><br>To: <a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br><br>
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Hi Erika, </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB">... would be fun! </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB">Stefan</span></font></p>
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<p><b><font face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold" lang="EN-GB">Von:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma" lang="EN-GB">
SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages
[mailto:<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Im
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<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">By the way, I'm
interested in as many texts as people are willing to make - so if there are
multiple ASL or BSL or LIBRAS (or any other language) versions that's just
fine! It would just add more interesting data for comparison and discussion! </span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway <<a href="mailto:erhoffma@oberlin.edu" target="_blank">erhoffma@oberlin.edu</a>>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Thanks Charles, I was hoping you'd be interested! :)</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Charles Butler <<a href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a>>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">l'd love to do something for this. Working back and
forth with both ASL and LIBRAS would be fun. I'm going to learn a great deal
in Brazil, and I have transcribed articles for Valerie and for Wikipedia.<br>
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Charles Butler<br>
<a href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a><br>
<a>240-764-5748</a><br>
Clear writing moves business forward.<br>
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--- On <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Mon, 1/14/13, Erika
Hoffmann-Dilloway <i><span style="font-style:italic"><<a href="mailto:erhoffma@OBERLIN.EDU" target="_blank">erhoffma@OBERLIN.EDU</a>></span></i></span></b>
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From: Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway <<a href="mailto:erhoffma@OBERLIN.EDU" target="_blank">erhoffma@OBERLIN.EDU</a>><br>
Subject: Re: idea for SW book<br>
To: <a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br>
Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 2:46 PM</span></font></p>
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great! I'd love for you to participate and I'll make sure to keep you in the
loop as a plan solidifies. <br>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:43 PM, chris farman <<a href="http://mc/compose?to=chrissignstar%40gmail.com" target="_blank">chrissignstar@gmail.com</a>>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">That sounds like a fantastic chapter and I would
love to help take part in that. I use BSL in SW and do not have
much exposuer to this kind of observation as here in the UK SW is not very
well known. However i am currently writing a learning manual for SW it
would be very interesting to see the same pharagraph translated. </span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Erika
Hoffmann-Dilloway <<a href="http://mc/compose?to=erhoffma%40oberlin.edu" target="_blank">erhoffma@oberlin.edu</a>> wrote:</span></font></p>
<font face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">Hi
all! As some of you know, I am (slowly) working on a book about SW – its
development and use across different international sites (including the
transnational listserv). As part of this research I’ve traveled to visit
Valerie and some other list members, such as Stefan and Maria. I’d love to visit
everyone on the list (at least, every one who was willing!) but unfortunately
my limited funding won’t allow that. Still, I really want as many interested
SignWriters as possible to participate in the book. To that end, I have an
idea and I’m curious what you all think about it.</span></font><br>
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<font face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">What
if we selected some kind of passage that all of you who were willing could
translate into your respective sign language and write up using SW? I could
devote a chapter of the book to these different texts, which would allow for
a comparison across both different sign languages and different ways of using
SW. Each writer could perhaps reflect on the choices they made in translating
and writing their document, including perhaps how their backgrounds/goals
affect these choices. And perhaps participants could also provide their own
thoughts about what we can learn from the comparison of these texts. </span></font><br>
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<font face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">This
is just my initial idea – if you have other ideas please let me know!</span></font><br>
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Thanks!<font color="#888888"><span style="color:#888888"><br>
Erika</span></font></span></font><font color="#888888"><span style="color:#888888"><br clear="all">
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Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway<br>
Assistant Professor of Anthropology<br>
Oberlin College </span></font></p>
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