Thanks Maria!<br> Yes, I'm hoping I can get a publisher to reproduce all the texts in my book, so they'll be available that way. But I think they should be available outside the book too - through the SW website or the puddle or whatever, so that they can be useful to all of us and other researchers. <br>
I'll look for a more accessible pear stories link and post when I've found one :)<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 9:42 AM, MARIA GALEA <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:maria.azzopardi@um.edu.mt" target="_blank">maria.azzopardi@um.edu.mt</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Erika,<br>
Hope you are fine, and happy new year. Great to hear about the next steps<br>
in your book. i can't open the link to the other story of the pear..any<br>
idea how to get that story? Also will the data be available to use by<br>
other researchers who would look at other aspects of it such as<br>
cross-linguistic<br>
comparisons? I really hope you manage to pool in a good number of texts.<br>
Will be very glad to help with the LSM written story for you.<br>
Thanks<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">maria<br>
</font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
> Hi KJ - thanks for your feedback. The frog story is quite long but you're<br>
> right that an excerpt might work!<br>
><br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
><br>
> On Jan 18, 2013, at 9:44 PM, "KJ Boal" <<a href="mailto:kjoanne403@SIGNWRITING.ORG">kjoanne403@SIGNWRITING.ORG</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> I do like the idea of cross-linguistic elicitation material like what<br>
>> you’ve suggested, though I think both those pieces are quite long – we<br>
>> might want to select an excerpt from one of them. (My vote is for<br>
>> something from Frog, Where Are You? – I like being able to look back and<br>
>> forth at the pictures to construct the story in my mind, since I don’t<br>
>> normally think in ASL. I know I’d find a picture story easier to work<br>
>> with than a video.)<br>
>> Great idea!<br>
>> KJ<br>
>><br>
>> From: SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages<br>
>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>] On Behalf Of Erika<br>
>> Hoffmann-Dilloway<br>
>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 1:17 PM<br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br>
>> Subject: Re: idea for SW book<br>
>><br>
>> Hi all!<br>
>> I've been thinking over what material we should use a shared starting<br>
>> point for producing SW documents for the book. I don't want to us to<br>
>> translate from a text in a written (signed or spoken) language. So, I'm<br>
>> thinking the best approach might be to an elicitation material commonly<br>
>> used in cross-linguistic spoken and signed language research, such as<br>
>> Frog, Where Are You? (a picture story with no written text) or The Pear<br>
>> Story video.<br>
>> For those not familiar -<br>
>> The former can be seen in the appendix of this article:<br>
>> <a href="http://childes.psy.cmu.edu/manuals/frog.pdf" target="_blank">http://childes.psy.cmu.edu/manuals/frog.pdf</a><br>
>> The latter can be viewed here: <a href="http://pearstories.org/" target="_blank">http://pearstories.org/</a><br>
>> I suggest one of these because they've been chosen precisely because<br>
>> they are thought to be relatively cross-culturally accessible - and we<br>
>> are a diverse group :)<br>
>> They are also thought to elicit interesting grammatical variation in<br>
>> languages.<br>
>> Finally, because there is so much research on sign languages that has<br>
>> used these materials for elicitation, the texts you produce can more<br>
>> easily become a part of a broad comparative cannon.<br>
>> Frog, Where Are You? will be more work for you all though, as<br>
>> translating it will certainly take much longer - and for that reason The<br>
>> Pear Stories might be a better choice.<br>
>> However, it would be really cool if another result of this project was<br>
>> to contribute to the written sign language literature available for<br>
>> d/Deaf children and other readers!<br>
>> Mercer Meyer has been very generous in lending this story to research,<br>
>> and I can look into what it would take to make it permissible to have<br>
>> multilingual versions of the text with the illustrations available on<br>
>> the SSW website. Having the translations be useful not only for research<br>
>> purposes but also for kids to read would certainly be in the SW spirit!<br>
>> What do you all think?<br>
>> Best,<br>
>> Erika<br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:signwriting@mac.com">signwriting@mac.com</a>><br>
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>> SignWriting List<br>
>> January 17, 2013<br>
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>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 9:38 AM, Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:erhoffma@oberlin.edu">erhoffma@oberlin.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Yes, I think for the purposes of this project it's fine for participants<br>
>> to create the document in whatever way they prefer. Many who use<br>
>> SignPuddles may want to use that option, but delegs, or even handwriting<br>
>> are fine with me. These different approaches themselves provide<br>
>> interesting data for my project!<br>
>><br>
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>> Yes…I agree. Another software program is SignWriter Studio, developed in<br>
>> Honduras, and in Honduras they also have shown us some amazing<br>
>> handwritten documents using full stick figures - so the variety of<br>
>> software and writing styles is quite amazing…<br>
>><br>
>> Take a look at the Honduran document attached…this looks like documents<br>
>> from Denmark too:<br>
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