<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">People - as Valerie said, it's a dynamic to show a drum beat, not beat an actual drum. However, the angle is correct as one plays with three fingers on a tambor (an African drum held between the knees). <br><br>Charles Butler<br>
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Clear writing moves business forward.<br><br>--- On <b>Sat, 3/2/13, Stefan Wöhrmann <i><stefanwoehrmann@GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Stefan Wöhrmann <stefanwoehrmann@GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE><br>Subject: AW: QUESTION: Dynamics and Timing Symbols<br>To: SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br>Date: Saturday, March 2, 2013, 5:24 PM<br><br><div id="yiv1160014650">
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fingers – ouch – wouldn´t it hurt? Just my feeling but I am no drummer ... ;-))</span></font></p>
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<p class="yiv1160014650MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold;">Von:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;"> SignWriting
List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Im Auftrag von </span></b>Valerie Sutton<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Gesendet:</span></b> Samstag, 2. März 2013
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<p class="yiv1160014650MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="
font-size:12.0pt;">Please excuse my delay in answering this question. Thank you, Charles,
for caring about writing and asking questions… Second, I saw that Madson and
perhaps others answered you already on Facebook - and they wrote it well
too...smile…so you are getting plenty of feedback... Thanks to everyone -</span></font></p>
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font-size:12.0pt;">Regarding the Strike symbol in your writing… The drum beat that you are
trying to write below does not actually contact a surface but is mimicking the
feeling of contacting a surface with the drumming movement - So that would not
be written with a Strike Symbol, because the Strike must show contact with
force, and there is no real contact happening…So the Tension Symbol at the end
of the movement, or even the Fast Symbols would be substituted, rather than
using the Strike symbols (if you feel they are necessary - they may not be -
maybe too much detail?)...</span></font></p>
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<p class="yiv1160014650MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="
font-size:12.0pt;">Regarding the Alternating Symbol - no I would not use that either. When
we read a group of arrows with the left and right hands, we always read the
arrows from the Center - Out. So the left and right arrow that are closest to
the center are read first, and then read out one by one - so there is no need
to also write an Alternating Symbol…since the Alternating feeling is already
there if you follow the Center-Out rule...</span></font></p>
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<p class="yiv1160014650MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="
font-size:12.0pt;">So I would write it this way, if we want to write lots of detail
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font-size:12.0pt;">On Feb 27, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Valerie Sutton <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:signwriting@mac.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=signwriting@mac.com">signwriting@mac.com</a>> wrote:</span></font></p>
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font-size:12.0pt;">Thank you for this question. I will post your question to the
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font-size:12.0pt;">On Feb 27, 2013, at 2:40 AM, Charles Butler <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM">chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM</a>> wrote:</span></font></p>
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Take a look at this sign. Do I need the alternating arcs. I've never been
sure with this as one hand goes up as the other comes down. As there is no
surface (it's a drum beat) is this the right movement. Should it be ~
instead ?<br>
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Charles Butler<br>
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240-764-5748<br>
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