<div dir="ltr"><div>OK, took the chance, even though I'm supposed to be doing something else on a tight deadline ;)<br></div>Stefan you're right: I see it performed both ways! <br>For example, to see if performed like Stefan says, at 1:04 in the following video (this isn't from my data, this is some publicly circulated video someone else took and posted to you tube): <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSpc3ZgP1wo">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSpc3ZgP1wo</a><br>
So now I need to figure out how to write it with the back of the right hand resting in the left palm with the index finger sticking up!<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:erhoffma@oberlin.edu" target="_blank">erhoffma@oberlin.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Stefan, when I get the time I will look in my video data corpus to see if I can find instances of signers performing the sign as you suggest they might. (love the images you included!!!)<br>
</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Stefan Wöhrmann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@gebaerdenschrift.de" target="_blank">stefanwoehrmann@gebaerdenschrift.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Hi Maria, Erika,Adam, Valerie... <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB">The reason that I feel
uncomfortable with the spelling of this sign is just as Erika explains: <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB">“Maybe it's because the wrist of the right hand has to
flex so much to allow the hand to rest in the palm of the left? “<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB">That`s it and it is independent of DGS – smile. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB">Reading your sign my brain suggests to experiment with
one of these variations: <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB">Left hand indicating the ground, right hand indicating
the tower (<span>Dharahara) - <u></u><u></u></span></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><img src="cid:image004.gif@01CE2CB9.D9CD37C0" height="53" width="63"><u></u><u></u></span></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB">(I would feel much more comfortable with
the left hand palm down ( but that is not the point. It is not up to me to
discuss signs but only to discuss spelling – I know smile!)<u></u><u></u></span></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><img src="cid:image005.gif@01CE2CB9.D9CD37C0" height="53" width="67"><u></u><u></u></span></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><img src="cid:image006.gif@01CE2CB9.D9CD37C0" height="54" width="63"><u></u><u></u></span></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB">Well if you write a “rest” one hand upon another I
expect that I can perform that. In this case you cannot unless you rest the
lower arm on the palm of the left hand holding the right hand at 90°. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB">(That hurts)<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><img src="cid:image007.gif@01CE2CB9.D9CD37C0" height="158" width="145"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB">What we do in these cases is what Adam explained: We
simply accept and tell our brain to interpret this spelling if it shows up
another time to be interpreted as what you see on Erikas foto. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB">I myself love to discuss spelling and to ask myself
wether this or that spelling should be chosen. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB">Sometimes I have my doubts immediately – for example
when reading the first attempt of Claudia to write Paris – wow next message she
shows up to change handorientation – well done!! Another example is the
spelling of Sao Paulo palm facing the signer... <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><img src="cid:image008.gif@01CE2CB9.D9CD37C0" height="46" width="63"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB">In this case of Kathmandu – Adam is right – it hurts if
I try to sign it with this extreme bend and I would be eager to videotape 10
signers in Kathmandu – how many of them would rest the back of the right hand
on the palm of the left hand – but just bending the index up – or something
like this in between the two spellings ;-) <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB">So to anwer your question Maria – in my first contact
with Erikas spelling I wanted the right hand with index straight upward... and
that is impossible.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB">Thanks Maria for your question. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB">Stefan<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Von:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> SignWriting
List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Im Auftrag von </span></b>Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Gesendet:</span></b> Freitag, 29. März 2013
18:25<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">An:</span></b>
<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Betreff:</span></b> Re: Erika's SignWriting..</span></font><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Stefan - would that have helped? <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Happy Easter to you too Maria! I was actually just eating a Cadbury
Cream Egg while reading your message...<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 1:13 PM, MARIA GALEA <<a href="mailto:maria.azzopardi@um.edu.mt" target="_blank">maria.azzopardi@um.edu.mt</a>>
wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Yes that could be it..perhaps if the B-Hand hand is written diagonally
it<br>
might read more 'smoothly'? see attached.<br>
<br>
oh and before I go a BIG HAPPY EASTER Erika and EVERYONE else on the<br>
List..enjoy your Easter Eggs and naturally your loved ones.<br>
<span><font color="#888888"><span style="color:#888888">maria</span></font></span><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<br>
<br>
> Maybe it's because the wrist of the right hand has to flex so much to<br>
> allow<br>
> the hand to rest in the palm of the left? Maybe that extreme bend is not<br>
> as<br>
> phonologically common in, say, DGS?<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 12:51 PM, MARIA GALEA<br>
> <<a href="mailto:maria.azzopardi@um.edu.mt" target="_blank">maria.azzopardi@um.edu.mt</a>>wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Stefan,<br>
>> I could read Erika's writing perfectly, without the photo. I don't<br>
>> understand why you claimed that the SignWriting couldn't be performed.<br>
>> Maria<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> > Here's a photo of the sign. How would you suggest I write it.
Scribing<br>
>> has<br>
>> > never been my strong suit :)<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Stefan W�hrmann <<br>
>> > <a href="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@gebaerdenschrift.de" target="_blank">stefanwoehrmann@gebaerdenschrift.de</a>>
wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> >> Hi Erika, ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ** **<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> well I cannot perform that ;-( although I have an idea
what you want<br>
>> to<br>
>> >> show � but right hand up there is the horizontal line of hand
and<br>
>> lower<br>
>> >> arm - nothing that can be rest on the left palm ???****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ** **<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Stefan****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ** **<br>
>> >> ------------------------------<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> *Von:* SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages
[mailto:<br>
>> >> <a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>]
*Im Auftrag von *Erika<br>
>> >> Hoffmann-Dilloway<br>
>> >> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 28. M�rz 2013 18:07<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> *An:* <a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br>
>> >> *Betreff:* Re: Signs for Cities and States - can you write
the name<br>
>> of<br>
>> >> YOUR city and post to the List?<br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ** **<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Yes, the right hand comes to rest on top of the palm of the
left.<br>
>> Maybe<br>
>> >> I<br>
>> >> should just have shown them already in contact?****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Stefan W�hrmann <<br>
>> >> <a href="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@gebaerdenschrift.de" target="_blank">stefanwoehrmann@gebaerdenschrift.de</a>>
wrote:****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Hi Erika, ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> can you explain Kathmandu: ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> left flat hand palm up fingers to the right ( no problem)****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> right hand Index � Hand � palm facing the signer moving
down - mh<br>
>> �<br>
>> >> how to get the touch between the two hands � right hand
on top of<br>
>> the<br>
>> >> left<br>
>> >> hand ?? ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Stefan ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >> ------------------------------<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> *Von:* SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages
[mailto:<br>
>> >> <a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>]
*Im Auftrag von *Erika<br>
>> >> Hoffmann-Dilloway<br>
>> >> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 28. M�rz 2013 17:18****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> *An:* <a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br>
>> >> *Betreff:* Re: Signs for Cities and States - can you write
the name<br>
>> of<br>
>> >> YOUR city and post to the List?****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I don't know ASL, so I don't know a sign for Detroit, Ann
Arbor, or<br>
>> >> Oberlin (my US places).****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> So I'm posting the sign for Kathmandu, the city where I
learned to<br>
>> sign!<br>
>> >> *<br>
>> >> ***<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Adam Frost <<a href="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com" target="_blank">icemandeaf@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> wrote:<br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I am a West Coaster, and I must admit that people get East
Coast city<br>
>> >> signs mixed up along with our own city signs. But this is how
I<br>
>> >> personally<br>
>> >> sign the 4 commonly confused "B" cities, since I am
very picky and<br>
>> have<br>
>> >> been known to correct people at times. ;-) It seems to match
what you<br>
>> >> sign,<br>
>> >> Kim.****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Boston, Massachusetts****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Baltimore, Massachusetts****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Berkeley, California****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Burbank, California****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Adam****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Mar 28, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Kimberley Shaw wrote:****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ** **<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Hi everyone:<br>
>> >> those of us in Boston, Massachusetts sign it thus:<br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >> ------------------------------<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> and refer to Berkeley, CA thus:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> But some of my signing friends tell me that when you're on
the West<br>
>> >> Coast,<br>
>> >> it's the other way around!<br>
>> >> Best,<br>
>> >> Kim from Boston****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Valerie Sutton<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:signwriting@mac.com" target="_blank">signwriting@mac.com</a>><br>
>> >> wrote:****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> SignWriting List****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> March 28, 2013****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> NAMES OF CITIES and STATES Around the World****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Thank you, Ingvild, Charles and Stefan for your signs!****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I would suggest that you add your signs to the International
Sign<br>
>> >> Dictionary online:****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> SignPuddle for International Signs Dictionary****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> <a href="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=1&sgn=35****" target="_blank">http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=1&sgn=35****</a><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I just copied mine for La Jolla, California from the ASL
Dictionary<br>
>> to<br>
>> >> the<br>
>> >> International Dictionary, and I hope you can do the same for
your<br>
>> signs<br>
>> >> too�<br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> And I hope more names of cities, states, countries and other<br>
>> >> international<br>
>> >> signs can be added too�****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Here is what we have so far�and I really like all four
spellings!<br>
>> Thanks<br>
>> >> to you all�****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Val ;-)****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> --<br>
>> >> Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway<br>
>> >> Assistant Professor of Anthropology<br>
>> >> Oberlin College ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> --<br>
>> >> Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway<br>
>> >> Assistant Professor of Anthropology<br>
>> >> Oberlin College ****<br>
>> >><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > --<br>
>> > Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway<br>
>> > Assistant Professor of Anthropology<br>
>> > Oberlin College<br>
>> ><br>
>><br>
>><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway<br>
> Assistant Professor of Anthropology<br>
> Oberlin College<br>
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