<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Well said Ericka. I would also say that maybe there are some people who just aren't that limber. (I can't get my wrist to bend that much due to an old injury, but I can get it pretty close. Interestingly enough, I can do it perfectly fine when switching dominance to my left.)<div><br></div><div>Adam</div><div><br><div><div>On Mar 29, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Maybe it's because the wrist of the right hand has to flex so much to allow the hand to rest in the palm of the left? Maybe that extreme bend is not as phonologically common in, say, DGS?<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 12:51 PM, MARIA GALEA <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:maria.azzopardi@um.edu.mt" target="_blank">maria.azzopardi@um.edu.mt</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Stefan,<br>
I could read Erika's writing perfectly, without the photo. I don't<br>
understand why you claimed that the SignWriting couldn't be performed.<br>
Maria<br>
<br>
<br>
> Here's a photo of the sign. How would you suggest I write it. Scribing has<br>
> never been my strong suit :)<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Stefan W�hrmann <<br>
> <a href="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@gebaerdenschrift.de">stefanwoehrmann@gebaerdenschrift.de</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hi Erika, ****<br>
>><br>
>> ** **<br>
>><br>
>> well I cannot perform that ;-( although I have an idea what you want to<br>
>> show � but right hand up there is the horizontal line of hand and lower<br>
>> arm - nothing that can be rest on the left palm ???****<br>
>><br>
>> ** **<br>
>><br>
>> Stefan****<br>
>><br>
>> ** **<br>
>> ------------------------------<br>
>><br>
>> *Von:* SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:<br>
>> <a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>] *Im Auftrag von *Erika<br>
>> Hoffmann-Dilloway<br>
>> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 28. M�rz 2013 18:07<br>
>><br>
>> *An:* <a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br>
>> *Betreff:* Re: Signs for Cities and States - can you write the name of<br>
>> YOUR city and post to the List?<br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> ** **<br>
>><br>
>> Yes, the right hand comes to rest on top of the palm of the left. Maybe<br>
>> I<br>
>> should just have shown them already in contact?****<br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Stefan W�hrmann <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@gebaerdenschrift.de">stefanwoehrmann@gebaerdenschrift.de</a>> wrote:****<br>
>><br>
>> Hi Erika, ****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> can you explain Kathmandu: ****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> left flat hand palm up fingers to the right ( no problem)****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> right hand Index � Hand � palm facing the signer moving down - mh �<br>
>> how to get the touch between the two hands � right hand on top of the<br>
>> left<br>
>> hand ?? ****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> Stefan ****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>> ------------------------------<br>
>><br>
>> *Von:* SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:<br>
>> <a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>] *Im Auftrag von *Erika<br>
>> Hoffmann-Dilloway<br>
>> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 28. M�rz 2013 17:18****<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> *An:* <a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br>
>> *Betreff:* Re: Signs for Cities and States - can you write the name of<br>
>> YOUR city and post to the List?****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> I don't know ASL, so I don't know a sign for Detroit, Ann Arbor, or<br>
>> Oberlin (my US places).****<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> So I'm posting the sign for Kathmandu, the city where I learned to sign!<br>
>> *<br>
>> ***<br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Adam Frost <<a href="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com">icemandeaf@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> I am a West Coaster, and I must admit that people get East Coast city<br>
>> signs mixed up along with our own city signs. But this is how I<br>
>> personally<br>
>> sign the 4 commonly confused "B" cities, since I am very picky and have<br>
>> been known to correct people at times. ;-) It seems to match what you<br>
>> sign,<br>
>> Kim.****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> Boston, Massachusetts****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> Baltimore, Massachusetts****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> Berkeley, California****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> Burbank, California****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> Adam****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> On Mar 28, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Kimberley Shaw wrote:****<br>
>><br>
>> ** **<br>
>><br>
>> Hi everyone:<br>
>> those of us in Boston, Massachusetts sign it thus:<br>
>> ****<br>
>> ------------------------------<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> and refer to Berkeley, CA thus:<br>
>><br>
>> But some of my signing friends tell me that when you're on the West<br>
>> Coast,<br>
>> it's the other way around!<br>
>> Best,<br>
>> Kim from Boston****<br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:signwriting@mac.com">signwriting@mac.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:****<br>
>><br>
>> SignWriting List****<br>
>><br>
>> March 28, 2013****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> NAMES OF CITIES and STATES Around the World****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> Thank you, Ingvild, Charles and Stefan for your signs!****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> I would suggest that you add your signs to the International Sign<br>
>> Dictionary online:****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> SignPuddle for International Signs Dictionary****<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=1&sgn=35****" target="_blank">http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=1&sgn=35****</a><br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> I just copied mine for La Jolla, California from the ASL Dictionary to<br>
>> the<br>
>> International Dictionary, and I hope you can do the same for your signs<br>
>> too�<br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> And I hope more names of cities, states, countries and other<br>
>> international<br>
>> signs can be added too�****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> Here is what we have so far�and I really like all four spellings! Thanks<br>
>> to you all�****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> Val ;-)****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
>><br>
>> ****<br>
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>> ****<br>
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>> ****<br>
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>> ****<br>
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>> ****<br>
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>> ****<br>
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>> --<br>
>> Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway<br>
>> Assistant Professor of Anthropology<br>
>> Oberlin College ****<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
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>> --<br>
>> Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway<br>
>> Assistant Professor of Anthropology<br>
>> Oberlin College ****<br>
>><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway<br>
> Assistant Professor of Anthropology<br>
> Oberlin College<br>
><br>
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