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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Well – that is the very
reason that I asked for this different spelling ;-) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>All best<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Stefan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> SignWriting
List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>Im Auftrag von </span></b>Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Montag, 1. April 2013
22:43<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b>
SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: Sao Paulo (variant)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I see what you mean. When I first read that I think of that as the left
hand. Though when I go ahead and sign it with my right I see how it makes
sense...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Charles Butler <<a
href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>For Erica. Here is a variation on Sao Paulo. It
doesn't feel right to me, but logically this is how one would write the P
hand middle finger on the right hand touching the right temple. Other
rotations of the P hand give one some positions that don't look right if one
is working with two handed signs as the two hands don't touch when they
should or the fingers don't touch the face where they need to. <br>
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<img border=0 width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1025"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?text=M27x18S14008n13xn54S30007n18xn17S206005xn28&pad=10&name=Sao%20Paulo%20%282%29">Sao
Paulo<br>
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Here is my variation, which follows the Parkhurst convention, for
Perfect. Sometimes you just have to write what feels right. <br>
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<img border=0 width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1026"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?text=M39x38S1402010x7S14008n38xn37S2e408n27x5S26500n11xn11S20500n6xn28S140206xn34&pad=10&name=perfect%20%283%29"><br>
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Charles Butler<br>
<a href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a><br>
<a href="tel:240-764-5748" target="_blank" value="+12407645748">240-764-5748</a><br>
Clear writing moves business forward.<br>
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--- On <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Fri, 3/29/13, Claudia S. Bianchini <i><span
style='font-style:italic'><<a href="mailto:chiadu14@GMAIL.COM"
target="_blank">chiadu14@GMAIL.COM</a>></span></i></span></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
From: Claudia S. Bianchini <<a href="mailto:chiadu14@GMAIL.COM"
target="_blank">chiadu14@GMAIL.COM</a>><br>
Subject: Re: Signs for Cities and States - can you write the name of YOUR
city and post to the List?<br>
To: <a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br>
Date: Friday, March 29, 2013, 9:30 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hello... here are my cities:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Rome: where I was born<br>
Perugia: where was my university<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Modena: where I live when I'm not working<br>
Paris: where I've done my PhD<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Poitiers: where I work at university<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>2013/3/29 KJ Boal <<a
href="http://mc/compose?to=kjoanne403@signwriting.org" target="_blank">kjoanne403@signwriting.org</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I have a few here:</span></font><span
lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Red Deer (where I currently live):</span></font><span
lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
12.0pt'><img border=0 width=67 height=163 id="_x0000_i1027"
src="cid:image002.gif@01CE2F2F.BB811390"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Which is in the province of Alberta:</span></font><span
lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
12.0pt'><img border=0 width=67 height=65 id="_x0000_i1028"
src="cid:image003.gif@01CE2F2F.BB811390"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Edmonton, the capital of my province
and the city where I was born:</span></font><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
12.0pt'><img border=0 width=67 height=78 id="_x0000_i1029"
src="cid:image004.gif@01CE2F2F.BB811390"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Leduc, where I really grew up; the
city is near an international airport, so the sign looks like an airplane
taking off:</span></font><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
12.0pt'><img border=0 width=67 height=78 id="_x0000_i1030"
src="cid:image005.gif@01CE2F2F.BB811390"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Calgary, the other major city in my
province, technically has two possible signs. This is the old one, which
isn’t used any more – and there’s a story behind that! </span></font><span
lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
12.0pt'><img border=0 width=49 height=56 id="_x0000_i1031"
src="cid:image006.gif@01CE2F2F.BB811390"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>This sign refers to spurs on cowboy
boots, because Calgary’s biggest claim to fame is the
internationally-renowned rodeo called the Calgary Stampede. However, Edmonton
and Calgary have a MAJOR rivalry – if you’re from one city, you’re expected
to hate everything about the other! In the spirit of that rivalry, the
Edmontonian Deaf began joking that the sign was really related to the sign
for “garbage” and the Calgary was “garbage”. The Calgarian Deaf, offended,
decided to change the sign.</span></font><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>This is what they changed it to:</span></font><span
lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
12.0pt'><img border=0 width=49 height=70 id="_x0000_i1032"
src="cid:image007.gif@01CE2F2F.BB811390"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Personally, I’m sorry they changed it!
The original sign had more character, in my opinion. But I don’t subscribe to
the rivalry between the cities . . . much. (smile) Anyway, hope that’s not
too many signs all at once!</span></font><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>KJ</span></font><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'> SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign
Languages [mailto:<a
href="http://mc/compose?to=SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Valerie Sutton<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, March 27, 2013
3:25 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="http://mc/compose?to=SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Signs for Cities and
States - can you write the name of YOUR city and post to the List?</span></font><span
lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
12.0pt'>SignWriting List<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
12.0pt'>March 27, 2013<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Dear SW List:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Recently a Deaf guest from Ireland, Shane Gilchrist, visited us here
in La Jolla, and suddenly there were Deaf friends visiting in my home, from
all over San Diego!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
12.0pt'>It was a lot of fun for me in particular, because I have been a bit
isolated here - <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I learned a few signs that were new to me. One of them is the name of
the city where I live, La Jolla, California.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The sign for La Jolla is similar to the sign for California, except
the hand stays in one place while shaking… I just wrote it in the ASL
SignPuddle Dictionary:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
12.0pt'><a
href="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/canvas.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=1995"
target="_blank">http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/canvas.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=1995</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
12.0pt'>What is the sign for YOUR city?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Val ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#888888'>Claudia S. Bianchini, PhD<br>
A.T.E.R. Licence SDL-LSF @ Univ. Poitiers (France)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway<br>
Assistant Professor of Anthropology<br>
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