<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:14pt"><div>Greeting Dr Stephen and All : </div><div>From my understanding around the project : <br></div><div><span style="font-size: 14pt;">1- the SVG is used to draw signs </span><span style="font-size: 14pt;">as for example (fig2) </span></div><div><span style="font-size: 14pt;">2- I should </span><span style="font-size: 14pt;"> do the FSW for each sign and also define its word in arabic as for example (fig 1) where the user when enter the FSW or the word in arabic , the sign is returned .</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">3- But here i do not understand how to link among the SVG file (fig2) and the dictionary file (fig 1) .</div><div
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">thanks in advance</div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Valerie Sutton <signwriting@MAC.COM><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, May 5, 2013 10:15 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: signwriting (swml file problem)<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv2523346467"><div>SignWriting List<div>May 5, 2013</div><div><br></div><div>Asmaa -</div><div>You told
me that you are no longer doing avatar programming? What is your project now? Can you describe it to us? You are a student of programming and you need the metadata for something? What do you need it for now that you are not doing the avatar? Is it for a dictionary database outside of SignPuddle? Please describe your project, since we cannot know how to answer your questions if we do not understand what your task is…Many thanks ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>-----</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On May 5, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Asmaa Shaban <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:eng_asmaashaban@YAHOO.COM" target="_blank" href="mailto:eng_asmaashaban@YAHOO.COM">eng_asmaashaban@YAHOO.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br class="yiv2523346467Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;"><div>Ok thanks Dr
Adam , i want to ask about metadata for example <span style="font-size:18px;white-space:pre-wrap;">"</span><span class="yiv2523346467yui_3_7_2_26_1367783869302_86" style="font-size:16px;">M528x546S14c18472x463S14c10503x454S2ea18481x511S2ea08513x501S2fd00494x540</span><span style="font-size:18px;white-space:pre-wrap;">" , I Put this according to what???</span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Adam Frost <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank" href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM">icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU"
target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, May 5, 2013 8:05 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: signwriting (swml file problem)<br> </font> </div> <div class="yiv2523346467y_msg_container"><br>
<div id="yiv2523346467">My understanding is that cdt is the created time as in when the entry was created, mdt is the modified time as in when the entry was last modified, and usr is the user who created the entry. In this case, since there was no user signed in, the IP address is recorded instead of the user's name. I hope this helps. Correct me if I am wrong, Steve. ;-)<div><br></div><div>Adam</div><div><br><div><div>On May 5, 2013, at 3:07 AM, Asmaa Shaban wrote:</div><br class="yiv2523346467Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;"><div style="font-size:14pt;">Greeting Dr Stephen,</div><div style="font-size:14pt;">For creating signwriting dictionary of Egypt or XML File , I Put for example:</div><div> <span style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><entry id="2" cdt="1209196489"
mdt="1210401228" usr="212.138.39.66"></span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap;"> <term><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 16px; white-space: normal;">M528x546S14c18472x463S14c10503x454S2ea18481x511S2ea08513x501S2fd00494x540</span></term></span></div><div style="font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap;"> <term><![ لغة الاشاره]]></term></span></div><div style="font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap;"></entry> This Right??</span></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap;"><span style="font-size:18px;">But here</span> Dr <span
style="font-size:18px;">Stephen </span><span style="font-size:18px;">, I do not Know what is the mean by cdt , mdt & usr .</span></span></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-size: 18px;"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap;">and also how to generate the shape of the sign that its metadata is "</span><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 16px;">M528x546S14c18472x463S14c10503x454S2ea18481x511S2ea08513x501S2fd00494x540</span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;">"</span></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-size: 18px;"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;">Thanks Much </span></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;
font-size: 18px;"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;">Asmaa Shaban :)</span></div> <div style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Stephen E Slevinski Jr <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:slevin@SIGNPUDDLE.NET" target="_blank" href="mailto:slevin@SIGNPUDDLE.NET">slevin@SIGNPUDDLE.NET</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:28 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: signwriting (swml
file problem)<br> </font> </div> <div class="yiv2523346467y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv2523346467">
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<div class="yiv2523346467moz-cite-prefix">Greeting Asmaa Shaban,<br>
<br>
On 4/24/13 7:25 PM, Asmaa Shaban wrote:<br>
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<pre>we are students in computer science ,our faculty want from us to make project
about text to sign language.</pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
SignPuddle Online can convert A<span>rabic text to written sign
language using word substitution.</span><br>
<br>
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<pre> we want your helping in our project
we are making alot of searches
we are knowing our project require :_
1- vrml plugin and we installed it</pre>
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<br>
VRML as in Virtual Reality Modeling Language for 3-d environment?
I've seen a couple working examples using SignWriting for 3-d
modeling, but I believe HamNoSys is further along.<br>
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<pre>2-swml file and it is our problem we do not understand how to parse and insert it
in relational database</pre>
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Valerie is correct. We no longer use SWML. For each sign, rather
than XML markup we are using word strings in ASCII, called Formal
SignWriting (FSW).<br>
<br>
Consider this sign.<br>
<img alt="" id="yiv2523346467f70c810a-6e24-4e58-a7ea-226728094cd5" height="60" width="42" src="cid:1.3288537857@web164503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com"><br>
Formal SignWriting: M518x529S14c20481x471S27106503x489<br>
<br>
Equivalent SWML:<br>
<img alt="" id="yiv2523346467f0225b8-9876-40c9-a133-5301bf4e050d" height="104" width="271" src="cid:2.3288537857@web164503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com"><br>
<br>
You can find the details of Formal SignWriting in
draft-slevinski-signwriting-text.<br>
<br>
Each dictionary in SignPuddle Online is available as an XML file.
Here is the source file for Saudi Arabia:<br>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/data/spml/sgn40.spml">http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/data/spml/sgn40.spml</a><br>
<br>
This XML files cross references the Arabic text with the written
sign language.<br>
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<pre>3-how SVG use swml file for producing gif format ?</pre>
</blockquote>
Rather than SWML, we use Formal SignWriting.<br>
<br>
Rather than GIF, we use PNG or SVG.<br>
<br>
Using the "SignWriting Icon Server" (SWIS), you can create the SVG
or PNG from the Formal SignWriting. You can use the public SWIS on
Wikimedia Labs or you can install your own with the source from
Github.<br>
<br>
For the SVG, use a link like this:<br>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://swis.wmflabs.org/glyphogram.php?font=svg&text=M518x529S14c20481x471S27106503x489">http://swis.wmflabs.org/glyphogram.php?font=svg&text=M518x529S14c20481x471S27106503x489</a><br>
<br>
For the PNG, use a link like this:<br>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://swis.wmflabs.org/glyphogram.php?font=png&text=M518x529S14c20481x471S27106503x489">http://swis.wmflabs.org/glyphogram.php?font=png&text=M518x529S14c20481x471S27106503x489</a><br>
<br>
For the relational database, there is no reason to divide the Formal
SignWriting. Put the Arabic text in one field "
<b style="font-family: Times; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><font size="+1">الغة الاشرة</font></b><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><font size="+1">"</font></span><span style="font-family: Times; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><font size="+1"> and put</font></span>
the Formal SignWriting in another field "
<span style="font-family: Times; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; display: inline; float: none;">M528x546S14c18472x463S14c10503x454S2ea18481x511S2ea08513x501S2fd00494x540</span>".<br>
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<pre>and seriously thanks alot :)
</pre>
</blockquote>
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Sure. Hope I am able to help. Ask questions and keep us informed.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
∼Steve
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