<html><body><div style="color:; background-color:; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px">Thanks, my error.<br><div><span><br></span></div><div> </div><div>Charles Butler<br>chazzer3332000@yahoo.com<br>240-764-5748<br>Clear writing moves business forward.<br></div> <div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Honza <honza@RUCE.CZ><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, May 15, 2013 3:21 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: forward spiral<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv3969394030"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Hi
Charles,<br><br></div>I think, this spiral is not the one I need. I don't see forward movement in the second arrow. This is like traveling circle upward.<br><br></div>Honza<br></div><div class="yiv3969394030gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="yiv3969394030gmail_quote">On 14 May 2013 15:08, Charles Butler <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="yiv3969394030gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div><div><div><br><img src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?text=M13x50S2e500n13xn12S26600n10xn50S10050n2x20&pad=10&name=minhoca-ALT">Possible forward spiral - LIBRAS - minhoca - earthworm</div>
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<img src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?text=AS10020S29808M8x39S10020n8x9S29808n5xn38&pad=10&name=minhoca">Also written this way with one movement, but the above combination may be more accurate. <br>
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I don't find a "spiral" motion in sign bank otherwise.<br></div><div> </div><div>Charles Butler<br><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a><br><a href="" rel="nofollow">240-764-5748</a><br>
Clear writing moves business forward.<br></div> <div style="font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14pt;"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1">
<font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Honza <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:honza@RUCE.CZ" target="_blank" href="mailto:honza@RUCE.CZ">honza@RUCE.CZ</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, May 14, 2013 4:26 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Elbow movement and some details<br>
</font> </div> <div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi Adam and Val for your comments.<br><br></div>1 - I mean the elbow movement you can see in attached video.<br></div>4 - Adam, you are right, I mean forward spiral movement, that is different from the movement Val shown.<br>
<br></div>Thanks <br></div>Honza<br></div><div><br><br><div>On 13 May 2013 17:58, Adam Frost <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:icemandeaf@gmail.com">icemandeaf@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;">Here are some replies from me below.<div><br></div><div>Adam</div><div><br><div><div>
<div>On May 13, 2013, at 6:16 AM, Honza wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Hello Val,<br><br>I have some specific question: <br><ol><li>Is there way how to write down movement of an elbow? Maybe it is possible to use some "neutral" arrows for that somehow.</li>
</ol></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div>What type of movement of the elbow are you talking about? Can you show us what you mean?</div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><ol start="2">
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As you know, in Puddle there are two rub symbols. One "left" and one "right". Is there any difference in the direction of movements?</li></ol></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div>I guess in theory you could say there is a difference following the rotation of the curl, but most people don't really pay attention to that detail and only choice one. </div>
<div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><ol start="3"><li>I am not sure about using (( alternating lines. I don't see any way where this can be useful, due all information are included in movement arrows.</li>
</ol></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div>You are absolutely correct. That is the reason that I don't usually use most of the timing symbols because the movement arrows already tell me that information, but there are some people who feel that repetition of information is needed and therefore use it.</div>
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<li>Is there easy way how to write down circular+forward movement?<br></li></ol></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div>I know that Val replied already, but are you talking about a forward looping movement (which would be what Val showed) or are you talking about a forward spiral movement?</div>
<br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><br></div>Thank you.<br></div>Honza<br></div>
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