<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14pt"><div><span></span></div><div> </div><div>Charles Butler<br>chazzer3332000@yahoo.com<br>240-764-5748<br>Clear writing moves business forward.<br></div> <div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Adam Frost <icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, May 29, 2013 1:18 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Honduran numbers 11 through 19<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv6626430480"><div>I couldn't view your
attachments, but I was able to look in SignPuddle and find what you were referring to. I wrote 11 and 16 with a could of examples each. The first is how I would positions the symbols with the one that you had written with respect to the movement arrows. Even though the rotation arrows mean no traveling, the beginning and ending hands should be placed at the beginning and ending of the arrow as best as can be done. The second example is the same thing except I use a different movement symbol which makes it so that the beginning and ending read left to right. Since the movements are both the same, I have found that it is easier for people who are used to reading from left to right to read. The last two examples are using the idea of "fingerspelling" in that the change in palm orientation and handshape are enough to know what the in-between movements are. The first one is for horizontal writing and the last one is for vertical writing. I personally like
the last example best. ;-)<div><br></div><div></div></div></div><img src="cid:1.3541502500@web163404.mail.gq1.yahoo.com"><br><div id="yiv6626430480"><div><div> <img id="yiv6626430480canvasimage"
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Hi list,<br>
a Deaf friend and me are entering some signs into to Honduras
Puddle, we are writing the signs in SignWriter Studio then putting
them up on the puddle. <br>
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<a rel="nofollow" class="yiv6626430480moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=16&sTrm=*">http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=16&sTrm=*</a><br>
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The audience will be is a hearing people who are new to sign
language and SignWriting and Deaf new to SignWriting. Also latter we
will be adding some signs that are not used in all parts of Honduras
so we need them to be readable by the Deaf that are seeing the sign
for the first time too. We are trying to balance between writing in
a way that is clear to people who have never seen the sign before
and writing simply (without many symbols) so that it will be easy to
write them the same way by hand.<br>
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Please feel free to look through the puddle and let us know if
anything is writing in way that looks wrong or that can't be
performed or alternate writings. We will be asking a few questions
on some that we are feeling unsure about<br>
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These are numbers eleven through fifteen. The fist twisting inward
showing the palm of the hand.<br>
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These are numbers sixteen through nineteen. The fist twisting
outward showing the back of the hand.<br>
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Are the symbols positioned in a readable fashion?<br>
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<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:joyoduncan@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:joyoduncan@gmail.com">joyoduncan@gmail.com</a><br>
Cel Honduras: (504)3141-1171<br>
Tel USA: (347)875-8442 <br>
Skype: yojoduncan<br>
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