<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14pt"><div><span>My response to this, and any other sign with a facial circle, is that it makes it impossible to spell. If you just put a facial circle without an arc, there is no way to tell, by visual inspection, by the spelling, where that hand is on the face. It may make it faster to write, but to sort by visual, that hand put anywhere on the edge of the facial circle would have the same spelling because there is no arc there. </span></div><div></div><div> </div><div>Charles Butler<br>chazzer3332000@yahoo.com<br>240-764-5748<br>Clear writing moves business forward.<br></div> <div style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; "> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span
style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Adam Frost <icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, May 29, 2013 10:47 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Hola<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv0254836703"><div>Many people assume that the line on the rotation symbol is the arm. It isn't. Not exactly. Think of it more of an Axis of Rotation. Usually your arm does fall on this axis, but not always because you could produce this sign with your arm in different angles. That is why it is best not to write the rotation as if it is the arm, but just like any other movement arrow. Here is my rewriting of the same sign. Notice that I also removed the touch contact. I have started doing this when the symbols already show the contact because it makes it so there is
less to read.<div><br></div><div><img id="yiv0254836703canvasimage"
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Resending in case you couldn't see the graphics the first time.
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This sign "Hola" or hello in English. Seems to be fine.<br>
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But I was expecting to find the the parallel to wall rotation
symbol on an angle which would be the same place as the arm would
be. I know that the parallel to wall lines where first drawn as
the arm itself, so I guess that's why I was expecting the parallel
to wall rotation in different positions.<br>
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Any suggestions on writing this sign?<br>
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