<div dir="ltr"><div>Thank you Charles...i also found this that helps:<br><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/library/history/hist008.html">http://www.signwriting.org/library/history/hist008.html</a><br></div>much obliged!<br>
maria<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 27 August 2013 13:58, Charles Butler <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:14pt;font-family:tahoma,new york,times,serif"><div><span>I know that several of the old timers use shorthand all the time to take quick notes (Adam Frost comes to mind). I believe the book can be special-ordered from Valerie as shorthand is not accessible by computer as it is meant to be written, not typed. </span></div>
<div style="font-style:normal;font-size:19px;background-color:transparent;font-family:tahoma,'new york',times,serif"><span><br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:19px;background-color:transparent;font-family:tahoma,'new york',times,serif">
<span>Handwriting is not quick, but it is clear and readable and I can read notes I wrote more than 20 years ago at this point. I teach handwriting when I teach signwriting myself. </span></div><div class="im"><div></div>
<div> </div><div>Charles
Butler<br><a href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a><br><a href="tel:240-764-5748" value="+12407645748" target="_blank">240-764-5748</a><br>Clear writing moves business forward.</div>
<div><br></div> </div><div style="font-size:14pt;font-family:tahoma,'new york',times,serif"> <div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1">
<font face="Arial"><div class="im"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Honza <<a href="mailto:honza@RUCE.CZ" target="_blank">honza@RUCE.CZ</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a> <br>
</div><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, August 27, 2013 6:41 AM<div><div class="h5"><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: Fast sign writting - shorthand<br> </div></div>
</font> </div><div><div class="h5"> <div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Hi Charles,<br><br></div>yes I know this page, but there is only handwriting explained but not shorthand, only differences, but not the way I get certain SW
symbols by shorthand. <br>Anyway is more used handwriting or shorthand?<br>
</div><br></div>Thank you,<br>Honza<br></div><div><br><br><div>On 27 August 2013 12:15, Charles Butler <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:14pt;font-family:tahoma,'new york',times,serif"><div>
<span style="font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><span style="color:rgb(30,125,131);font-weight:bold">www.<b style="font-weight:bold">signwriting</b>.org/lessons/cursive/<u></u><b style="font-weight:bold">shorthand</b></span> </span></div>
<div style="color:rgb(30,125,131);font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(30,125,131);font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal">
It's amazing what happens when you simply search for it on the
web. </div><div><div style="color:rgb(30,125,131);font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal"> <br></div><div>
Charles Butler<br><a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a><br><a rel="nofollow">240-764-5748</a><br>Clear writing moves business forward.</div>
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<div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Honza <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:honza@RUCE.CZ" target="_blank">honza@RUCE.CZ</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, August 27, 2013 3:31 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: Fast sign writting - shorthand<br> </font> </div><div><div> <div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hello everyone,<br><br>I am very interested in SW-short hand, but I haven't found any manual on the web.<br>
Is there any?<br><br></div>Thank you<br>Honza<br></div><div><br><br><div>
On 27 August 2013 03:11, Romero <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:romero@signwriting.org" target="_blank">romero@signwriting.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Definitely faster, but necessary to keep practicing. I use "speed" writing & F.S. for my lists of things to do (shopping, reminders, important notes). <div><br></div><div>Nancy R.<div>
<div><br><div><div>On Aug 26, 2013, at 6:07 PM, "Charles Butler" <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM" target="_blank">chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">
<div>I agree, shorthand is much faster, I know it in concept but have not used it enough to be fluent.<br><br><div><span><br></span></div><div> </div>
<div>Charles Butler<br><a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a><br><a rel="nofollow">240-764-5748</a><br>Clear writing moves business forward.</div>
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<font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Romero <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:romero@SIGNWRITING.ORG" target="_blank">romero@SIGNWRITING.ORG</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, August 26, 2013 8:48 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: Fast sign
writting<br> </font> </div> <div><br><div><div>Oh I see the difference here. Charles' example is of "speed writing"; what I learned is actually shorthand. Entirely different.<div><br></div><div>Nancy Romero</div>
<div><br><div><div>On Aug 26, 2013, at 5:45 PM, André L <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:andre-andre@HOTMAIL.CA" target="_blank">andre-andre@HOTMAIL.CA</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-size:12pt;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;font-family:Calibri">
<div dir="ltr">Thank you,<br>your example looks like what I started to do, but you have more skills!<br>It seems I am on the right
track. <span> </span><br> <br>I just need to become more fluent and learn to write without watching my pencil.<br> <br><br>André Lemyre<br> <br><div><hr>Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 15:59:18 -0700<br>From: <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM" target="_blank">chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM</a><br>
Subject: Re: Fast sign writting<br>To: <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br><br><div>
<div><span><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtVJyVCW2o0" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtVJyVCW2o0</a></span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div>
<span>Here is a video of Lucinda Batch talking about how sign writing has changed.<span> </span><br></span></div><div>
<br><span></span></div><div><span>I found myself being able to follow her and sign myself very quickly from the subject matter.<span> </span><br>
</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div>
<span>However, writing her signs quickly is a challenge. Here are 8 signs from a transcription. It is not perfect, but this is "hand" writing, not computer writing.<span> </span><br></span></div><div> </div><div>
Charles Butler<br><a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a><br><a rel="nofollow">240-764-5748</a><br>Clear writing moves business forward.</div>
<div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:12pt"><div dir="ltr"><hr size="1"><font face="Arial"><b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b><span> </span>André L <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:andre-andre@HOTMAIL.CA" target="_blank">andre-andre@HOTMAIL.CA</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b><span> </span><a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><span> </span><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b><span> </span>Monday, August 26, 2013 5:17 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b><span> </span>Fast sign writting<br></font></div><div><br><div><div dir="ltr">Hi,<br><div>I will be starting soon my LSQ signing classes.</div><div>Do you have any documents on how to write signs fast to take notes during a class.</div>
<div>I found only a few examples on the web site...</div><div>If you have drafts...</div><div> </div><div>Thanks.</div><div> </div><div>André Lemyre</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote>
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