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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/18/2013 10:03 AM, Valerie Sutton
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      <div>August 18, 2013</div>
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      <div>Hello André and everyone -</div>
      <div>Thank you for this message and thank you for offering to
        translate the Parkhurst's "A Cross-Linguistic Guide to
        SignWriting" into French. That will be used immediately…I look
        forward to posting it on this web page:</div>
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      <div>SignWriting Lessons Books in French</div>
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      <div>Jonathan Duncan, software developer of SignWriter Studio (<a
          moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.signwriterstudio.com">www.signwriterstudio.com</a>),
        and I were both pleased to read that you are using SignWriter
        Studio, combined with SignPuddle Online (<a
          moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.signpuddle.org">www.signpuddle.org</a>).
        Jonathan will be building in searching routines into SignWriter
        Studio now, but the searching routines are different than the
        ones in SignPuddle Online (I believe this is true...am I correct
        in saying that, Jonathan?) so I think both programs enhance each
        other with a variety of search routines...</div>
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    Yes that is correct, the SignWriter Studio search will also find
    symbols that mean the same such as arrows to the right or left and
    hands to the right or left from top view or side view.<br>
    Sorry I took so long to respond.  The Signwriting list emails
    weren't showing up but they did today!!!  I haven't updated the help
    files yet or the SignWriterStudio web page but you can download the
    new version from <br>
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    To use the search, open a dictionary you will be prompted to upgrade
    the file, so make a backup first if you intend to use an older
    version of the file<br>
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    Sign Search...<br>
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    You will a SignEditor window.  Add the symbols you want to search
    for. You can select the symbols and change whether you want them to
    search Same Fill & Rotation, same fill, same rotation or any
    fill and rotation doing a right click.<br>
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    Jonathan<br>
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      <div>So your feedback on the software, André, will be much
        appreciated -</div>
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      <div>Thank you for ideas on Flashcards too - A lot to think about
        -</div>
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      <div>Enjoy learning Quebec Sign Language (LSQ) and have a great
        autumn -</div>
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      <div>Val ;-)</div>
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          <div>On Aug 16, 2013, at 2:33 PM, André L <<a
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              href="mailto:andre-andre@hotmail.ca">andre-andre@hotmail.ca</a>>
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                I will initiate some ideas in Fall or winter...<br>
                 <br>
                One is to translate in French the guide "A
                cross-linguistic guide to signwriting" by Parkhurst.<br>
                 <br>
                Another project is to use the freeware Anki to
                make intelligent flashcards to study sign language for
                Québec sign language. See<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://ankisrs.net/" target="_blank">http://ankisrs.net/</a><br>
                I used it for Chineese and Haiti creole.  I love it.  It
                shows words we had more difficulties in the past and
                easy ones once in a while.<br>
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                The last project: I am a professionnal software tester
                (13 years experience in the medical field and soon some
                web based testing in the medical field).  I could
                provide in depth test protocols for testing new
                applications (currently I use mostly signwriter studio
                1.1 and signpuddle for search.<br>
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                I have little free time now, but in December, most of
                my signing classes will be over... I will post other
                messages then.<br>
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                André Lemyre<br>
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                          <hr id="ecxstopSpelling">Date: Tue, 13 Aug
                          2013 10:03:01 -0700<br>
                          From:<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:signwriting@MAC.COM">signwriting@MAC.COM</a><br>
                          Subject: Re: productive/receptive writing
                          question<br>
                          To:<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br>
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                          <div>August 13, 2013</div>
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                          <div>Hello André Lemyre!</div>
                          <div>I am happy to see the many signs you have
                            added to the Quebec Sign Language
                            Dictionary:</div>
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                              href="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=4&sgn=47"
                              target="_blank">http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=4&sgn=47</a></div>
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                          <div>Now that we can search by Source, I was
                            able to find all the signs you have written
                            by searching for your name in the Search for
                            Source field…</div>
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                          <div>Here is a screen capture of the list of
                            signs you have written so far:</div>
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                          <div>Thank you for your hard work, André!</div>
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                          <div>Your description of writing left-handed
                            signing and right handed-signing, and
                            Receptive and Expressive is really
                            interesting. Your perception is correct -
                            you are welcome to write as you choose. The
                            only issue, which I believe you already
                            experienced, is that most people are reading
                            and writing in the Expressive-Right-Handed
                            mode, and since that is the standard way we
                            are writing, most people will read your
                            writing better if you write that way.
                            However, for your own personal use, or for
                            some exceptions in research, the other modes
                            are fine too - </div>
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                          <div>SignWriting is flexible. I believe that
                            is why it is used so widely now -</div>
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                          <div>Val ;-)</div>
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                              <div>On Aug 12, 2013, at 5:51 PM, André L
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                                  <div dir="ltr">Hello,<br>
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                                    I want to add complexity relative to
                                    left handed people...<br>
                                     <br>
                                    In Tae kwon do and Aikido (martial
                                    arts), a long time ago, I was taught
                                    to not have a preferred side, both
                                    should be equals.<br>
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                                    I am right handed.  I work a lot
                                    with computer and have pain to my
                                    right hand.<br>
                                    I studied Québec sign language 3
                                    years ago.  I chose my left hand has
                                    my dominant hand for signing.  (I
                                    can easily swap hands for signing.)<br>
                                     <br>
                                    When I studied signwritting in March
                                    2013, I copied my right handed
                                    teacher signs from a receptive
                                    perspective, I had no time to
                                    process the sign.  Signwritting is
                                    not easy for a beginner and my
                                    teacher do not let time for taking
                                    notes.<br>
                                     <br>
                                    After, at home, I wrote as a left
                                    handed person from the expressive
                                    perspective for my personal
                                    notes.  Then I shared copies of my
                                    personal notes with right handed
                                    friends.  I swaped to writing as a
                                    right handed person.<br>
                                     <br>
                                    Since 1 month, I add signs to sign
                                    puddle.<br>
                                    I write the signs from a right
                                    handed person from the expressive
                                    perspective.<br>
                                     <br>
                                    Before writting a sign, I watch a
                                    video from the receptive
                                    perspective.  Then, I do the sign
                                    with the right hand. I watch it from
                                    the expressive perspective.  After,
                                    I write it as a right handed would
                                    do.  I project the image of my right
                                    hand on the screen.<br>
                                     <br>
                                    Sometimes, I write very naturally
                                    a sign that I see .  I was under the
                                    impression that I may write from a
                                    left handed receptive perspective...
                                    by-passing all the swapping I
                                    mentionned above.<br>
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                                    Good success with your semester.<br>
                                     <br>
                                    André Lemyre<br>
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                                      <hr id="ecxstopSpelling">Date:
                                      Mon, 12 Aug 2013 15:39:14 -0400<br>
                                      From:<span
                                        class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:erhoffma@OBERLIN.EDU">erhoffma@OBERLIN.EDU</a><br>
                                      Subject: productive/receptive
                                      writing question<br>
                                      To:<span
                                        class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br>
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                                            <div>Hi everyone! I'm going
                                              to be giving a paper at
                                              our annual anthropology
                                              meetings this fall on a
                                              panel about how to best
                                              represent visual aspects
                                              of linguistic phenomena.<span
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                                            I want to talk about the
                                            shift from receptive to
                                            productive writing in SW.
                                            I'm going to suggest that
                                            there are interesting
                                            theoretical and
                                            methodological lessons in
                                            this shift for scholars who
                                            want to transcribe visual
                                            aspects of communication,
                                            even if they aren't using SW
                                            per se (though I also want
                                            to make more scholars in my
                                            field aware of how useful SW
                                            can be for this purpose).<br>
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                                          To that end, I was wondering
                                          if list members might be
                                          willing to talk with me about
                                          their feelings about
                                          productive writing with SW.
                                          Did you initially write
                                          receptively? If so, how did
                                          you shift? (or do you still
                                          write receptively sometimes?).
                                          How do you feel that writing
                                          productively affects the way
                                          you choose to write (or how
                                          you read other people's
                                          writing)?<span
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                                        I'd love to hear answers to
                                        these questions and anything
                                        else you think is relevant about
                                        this aspect of SW, particularly
                                        as it relates to your own ways
                                        of using the writing system (for
                                        teaching, for research, for
                                        translation, for poetry, etc).<span
class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><br clear="all">
                                        <div>The conference isn't until
                                          November, but I wanted to get
                                          started on it now, before the
                                          semester kicks in!<br>
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                                        Best,<br>
                                        Erika<br clear="all">
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                                        --<span
                                          class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><br>
                                        Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway<br>
                                        Assistant Professor of
                                        Anthropology<br>
                                        Oberlin College</div>
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                     <a href="mailto:joyoduncan@gmail.com">joyoduncan@gmail.com</a><br>
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            Tel USA: (347)875-8442 <br>
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