<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:14pt"><div><span>From your point of view of asking different readers to explain their word choices, that would truly be a good educational exercise. There are thousands of ways to write, I try to use the choices of those signs that are already in the SignPuddle dictionary but sometimes the sign is simply not there. Perhaps now is the better time. </span></div><div></div><div> </div><div>Charles Butler<br>chazzer3332000@yahoo.com<br>240-764-5748<br>Clear writing moves business forward.</div><div><br></div> <div style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; "> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway
<erhoffma@OBERLIN.EDU><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September 5, 2013 10:29 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: revisiting the book idea<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br>
<div id="yiv1729265648"><div dir="ltr">Charles, do you mean the discussion of writing FROG? I'll look back at that. I don't want to create a situation like what you described. This whole plan is just a suggestion - if people feel it will not work well I can abandon it.<br>
Best,<br>Erika<br></div><div class="yiv1729265648gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="yiv1729265648gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Charles Butler <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="yiv1729265648gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; "><div><span>I thought I submitted something and it was shot down. I tried to interpret the story, but I just got nitpicking, not simply "your story is different than mine".</span></div>
<div></div><div> </div><div>Charles Butler<br><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a><br><a rel="nofollow" href="">240-764-5748</a><br>Clear writing moves business forward.</div>
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<font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:erhoffma@OBERLIN.EDU" target="_blank" href="mailto:erhoffma@OBERLIN.EDU">erhoffma@OBERLIN.EDU</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September 5, 2013
10:09 AM<div class="yiv1729265648im"><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: revisiting the book idea<br> </div></font> </div><div><div class="yiv1729265648h5"> <div><br>
<div><div dir="ltr">There is a publisher who would like to read the manuscript, but at the same time I don't want to hurry anyone :)<br></div><div><br><br><div>On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Claudia S. Bianchini <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:chiadu14@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:chiadu14@gmail.com">chiadu14@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Hi Erika,<br></div>I'll try to do it and to obtain ot from my deaf colleagues in Italy (not sure they'll do... :-/ ) ... have you a deadline?<br>
</div>Claudia<br></div><div><div><div>
<br><br><div>2013/8/26 Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:erhoffma@oberlin.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:erhoffma@oberlin.edu">erhoffma@oberlin.edu</a>></span><br><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi all- <br></div><br>As you may remember, a while back we had a conversation about whether listmembers would be interested in creating a short SW document for inclusion in the book I'm working on. What I originally proposed was:<br clear="all">
<div><div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><font><br>"What if we selected some kind of passage that all of you who
were willing could translate into your respective sign language and write up
using SW? I could devote a chapter of the book to these different texts, which
would allow for a comparison across both different sign languages and different
ways of using SW. Each writer could perhaps reflect on the choices they made in creating their document, including perhaps how their
backgrounds/goals affect these choices (since some of you are poets, some linguists, etc). And perhaps participants could also
provide their own thoughts about what we can learn from the comparison of these
texts."<br><br></font></span></div><div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><font>We discussed at length what would be the best kind of thing to use as the prompt for such a passage. It seemed that the thing most agreeable would be to use a simple image as a prompt, something that would lead to interesting sentence but not take too much of your time to create. I proposed using the two images attached here, writing perhaps one or two sentences about each, for a total of 2-4 sentences. <br>
<br></font></span></div><div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><font>Well, I just got a prompt from a potential publisher asking when I can give them a manuscript draft. So I figured I had better re-open the conversation!<br>
<br></font></span></div><div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><font>Here's what I think would be ideal: <br><br></font></span></div><div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><font>If those of you willing to do so would create brief texts based on the images and post them to the list. I am interested not only in the texts, but in the rich conversations about the different languages and writing styles that this will likely generate. As I wrote to the publisher: </font></span><br>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: Calibri; ">"I
will invite SignWriters to contribute SignWritten texts to the book and to
participate in the analysis of these texts"<br><br> </span>
</div><div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><font>Note that, as this is a linguistic anthropological project, it isn't necessary to ensure that the texts will be the same - for example, it's fine if different people write sentences describing different elements of the picture. <br>
<br></font></span></div><div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><font>So, what do you think? Shall we try it? <br></font></span></div><span><font color="#888888"><div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; "><font> </font></span><br>
-- <br>Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway<br>Assistant Professor of Anthropology<br>Oberlin College
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br></div></div><span><font color="#888888">-- <br><div>Claudia S. Bianchini, PhD<br>A.T.E.R. Licence SDL-LSF @ Univ. Poitiers (France)</div><div><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:chiadu14@gmail.comt" target="_blank" href="mailto:chiadu14@gmail.comt">chiadu14@gmail.com</a></div>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway<br>Assistant Professor of Anthropology<br>Oberlin College
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</div><br><br></div> </div></div></div> </div> </div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway<br>Assistant Professor of Anthropology<br>Oberlin College
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