<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14pt">When i sign "WRITE" the palm is not perfectly facing to the side or to the front; instead it is kind of diagonally facing my right shoulder. So when the right hand 'writes' on it, is moving diagonally forward/right. The arrows are correct, the palm facing is an approximation. Its too much trouble to delve into the diagonal palm facings for everyday writing...<br><br>cherie<br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Stefan Wöhrmann
<stefanwoehrmann@GOOGLEMAIL.COM><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, September 8, 2013 4:18 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> AW: AW: help with writing an ASL sentence for an academic paper<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv6897806149"><style>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">Hi Charles and friends of
the sw-list, </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">Well – there may be a
misunderstandig. </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">I discussed the spelling
of two different ways to write the term “write” ... I have got no problem to
understand the sign for write with the zig-zag motion in the end. Of course you
can literally “write on your left palm parallel to the floor” like this. </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">Compared to that there is
a different spelling of “write” left palm facing the signer. So I would rather
expect the right hand moving left to right instead of diagonally forward to the
right ... ;-) </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">All best </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;" lang="EN-GB">Stefan </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149yqt8997267488" id="yiv6897806149yqt72589"><div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold;">Von:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;"> SignWriting
List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Im Auftrag von </span></b>Charles Butler<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Gesendet:</span></b> Sonntag, 8. September
2013 13:56<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">An:</span></b> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Betreff:</span></b> Re: AW: help with writing
an ASL sentence for an academic paper</span></font></div></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;">Only
a partial answer "with the Delegs Editor" is parallel to "with
SignWriting". SignWriting is a methodology that can be a program (the
SignPuddle) or by hand so "with" is the appropriate
preposition. </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;">The zig-zag movement on SignWriting is
stylistic form for finishing a sentence. The double motion of
"writing" above is imbedded in a sentence so one is continuing a
thought. It is not inconsistent if one thinks of the zig-zag as a double motion
with a "written" return. The motion may be exactly the same. </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="4"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;">Charles
Butler<br clear="none">
chazzer3332000@yahoo.com<br clear="none">
240-764-5748<br clear="none">
Clear writing moves business forward.</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold;">From:</span></font></b><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;"> Stefan Wöhrmann
<stefanwoehrmann@GOOGLEMAIL.COM><br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b>
SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU <br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, September 8, 2013
5:41 AM<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> AW: help with writing an
ASL sentence for an academic paper</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;" lang="EN-GB">Hi Valerie, Nancy, Adam, Maria, Guido and friends of the sw-list
;-)) , </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;" lang="EN-GB">I love to discuss this kind of documents. SignWriting is such a
wonderdull tool to discuss different aspects of any given SL performance on a
solid foundation. </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;" lang="EN-GB">This is a typical example. Somebody tries to translate a given
concept (idea, phrase, sentence) to ASL ( or DGS...whatsoever..) </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;" lang="EN-GB">Now different competent signers may offer their w r i t t e
n answer to this problem. </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;" lang="EN-GB">What can be seen again and again ... there is not the one and only
possible translation. </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv6897806149hps"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;" lang="EN">Even if</span></font></span><span class="yiv6897806149shorttext"><font color="black"><span style="color:black;" lang="EN"> </span></font></span><span class="yiv6897806149hps"><font color="black"><span style="color:black;" lang="EN">the
sequence</span></font></span><span class="yiv6897806149shorttext"><font color="black"><span style="color:black;" lang="EN"> </span></font></span><span class="yiv6897806149hps"><font color="black"><span style="color:black;" lang="EN">of
signs</span></font></span><span class="yiv6897806149shorttext"><font color="black"><span style="color:black;" lang="EN"> </span></font></span><span class="yiv6897806149hps"><font color="black"><span style="color:black;" lang="EN">may</span></font></span><span class="yiv6897806149shorttext"><font color="black"><span style="color:black;" lang="EN">
</span></font></span><span class="yiv6897806149hps"><font color="black"><span style="color:black;" lang="EN">be the same</span> there are still lots of
possibilities to make individual (perhaps meaningfull) differences ... In this
case the facial expressions... </font></span><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv6897806149hps"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;" lang="EN"> </span></font></span><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv6897806149hps"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;" lang="EN">The good point is that we can discuss our “examples” in detail. We
can learn from each other. We can look at the documents as long as we want to
(compared to video ... ;-) </span></font></span><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv6897806149hps"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;" lang="EN">We can easily rewrite or change the document if we wish to. </span></font></span><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv6897806149hps"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;" lang="EN"> </span></font></span><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv6897806149hps"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;" lang="EN">Looking at your document Nancy – I have a question. (Same question
goes to Adam ;-)) )</span></font></span><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv6897806149hps"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;" lang="EN"> I tried to rewrite your sentence with the US- SignPuddle
Dictionary. I do not get the same signs this way. Does this mean that you write
this kind of document from scratch with SignText? </span></font></span><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv6897806149hps"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;" lang="EN"> </span></font></span><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv6897806149hps"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;" lang="EN">Nancy, I would like to discuss your spelling of
“Language” - the way you wrote it both hands move back and forth at the
same time. Is this the way you want to sign it? </span></font></span><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv6897806149hps"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;" lang="EN"> </span></font></span><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv6897806149hps"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;" lang="EN">Another spelling question: “written” second sign in the
right column. Left palm facing you, right hand is moving diagonally
forward instead down or to the right ... mh ... compared to your
spelling of SignWriting (left hand palm up, right hand writing zigzag on the
palm) the first spelling seems to be somehow inconsistent. (Although there is
no doubt about that everybody should be able to understand the idea – smile) </span></font></span><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv6897806149hps"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;" lang="EN"> </span></font></span><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv6897806149hps"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;" lang="EN"> </span></font></span><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv6897806149hps"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;" lang="EN">Now a discussion apart from SignWriting and spelling... </span></font></span><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv6897806149hps"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;" lang="EN"> </span></font></span><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv6897806149hps"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;" lang="EN">Both of you (Nancy and Adam) write a sign for “with” –mh –
(Maybe just because Maria asked for a sentence including this
“with”)</span></font></span><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv6897806149hps"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;" lang="EN"> </span></font></span><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span class="yiv6897806149hps"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;" lang="EN">Do not know ASL but here is my question – from my point of
idea “with” is kind of “with a pen” or “with my friend”
or...”with the delegs Editor” but “written with (????) SignWriting?
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;font-weight:bold;" lang="EN-GB">Von:</span></font></b><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;" lang="EN-GB"> SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages
[mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Im
Auftrag von </span></b>Romero<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Gesendet</span></b></span></font><b><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;font-weight:bold;">:</span></font></b><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;">
Sonntag, 8. September 2013 01:56<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">An:</span></b>
SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Betreff:</span></b> Re: help with writing an
ASL sentence for an academic paper</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">Here's an
example of an example:</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">Facial
expression eyebrows up, index finger points down 2x (This)</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">Fingerspelling
for ASL</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">2 horizontal
lines for a pause</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">Sign for
AMERICA (fingers intertwined, making a small horizontal circle)</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">Sign for SIGN
(2 index fingers travel in vertical oblong circle, alternating)</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">Sign for
LANGUAGE ( "L" handshapes facing floor moving outward while rotating)</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">2 horizontal
lines for a pause</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">Sign for SHOW
(flat left hand, right index touching palm of L hand, both move forward
together twice)</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">Sign for
WRITING (flat L palm, R hand as if holding pen moves diagonal on floor plane,
2x)</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">Sign for WITH
(2 "A" handshapes together, baby fingers toward the floor</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">Sign for SIGN
(shown previously)</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">Sign for
WRITING (former sign for WRITE with zigzag writing movement. This is only one variation)</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">2 horizontal
lines for a pause</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">Fingerspelled
S and W (another way to sign SIGN WRITING)</span></font></div>
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horizontal line for the end of the sentence.</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">On Sep 7,
2013, at 4:41 PM, maria galea <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:signwriting.maria@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:signwriting.maria@gmail.com">signwriting.maria@gmail.com</a>>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">Dear list
members particularly ASL users,</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">A friend of
mine who happens to be a linguist in the field of writing systems of the world
is hoping to include the mentioning of SignWriting as a writing system of the
world, and he has asked if someone could translate the following sentence into
ASL SignWriting:</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">"This
is an American sign language example written with SignWriting "</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">If you
could add sign-to-meaning correspondences, syntactic factors, and lexical
selection considerations would be helpful for him.</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv6897806149MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">Thank
you! It would be great if SignWriting makes its way into the academic field of
writing systems, so thank you very much for helping out with this (i can't do
it myself, because I'm not an ASL user)</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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regards to everyone!</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;"></span></font></div>
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