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    Stefan,<br>
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    At first, I was beginning to think the gap meant that the thumb was
    beyond the heel of the hand.  But then I realized that the thumb is
    so close to the heel that it could be thought of as on the same
    plane.   Now if I was showing fingers bending down in the heel view,
    they would be beyond the heel and a gap would seem to be natural
    there.  It's a common practice in art and drafting to leave such a
    gap when indicating something is beyond.   <br>
    <br>
    Of course, that begs the standard - for if we show the thumb not
    gapped and the fingers gapped, is that better than setting a rule
    that all lines representing digits (fingers and thumb) when in the
    heel view need to have a gap?<br>
    <br>
    Bill<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/20/2013 04:15 PM, Stefan Wöhrmann
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              lang="EN-GB">Of course ... but we look
              from behind ....like towards the wall plane.  ;-))<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> SignWriting
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                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>] <b><span
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                <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Gesendet:</span></b>
                Freitag, 20. September
                2013 22:08<br>
                <b><span style="font-weight:bold">An:</span></b>
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br>
                <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Betreff:</span></b>
                Re: Heel of Hand or Top
                View</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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              12.0pt">it's still parallel to the floor<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
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                    12.0pt">On Sep 20, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Stefan Wöhrmann
                    <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@GOOGLEMAIL.COM">stefanwoehrmann@GOOGLEMAIL.COM</a>>
                    wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                      lang="EN-GB">Hi all,<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                    size="2"><span
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                      lang="EN-GB">I cannot follow the
                      symbols in the second line ( flat hand with thumb)
                      either...<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      lang="EN-GB">It does not make sense to
                      me to show the gap of the thumb if I am not
                      looking from Top View ...<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      lang="EN-GB">All best<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                          lang="EN-GB">Von:</span></font></b><span
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                        style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"
                        lang="EN-GB">SignWriting
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                        style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">Languages
                        [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:SW">mailto:SW</a>-<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>]<span
                          class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span
                            style="font-weight:bold">Im
                            Auftrag von<span
                              class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>Jonathan
                        Duncan<br>
                        <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Gesendet:</span></b><span
                          class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Freitag,
                        20. September 2013 19:20<br>
                        <b><span style="font-weight:bold">An:</span></b><span
                          class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br>
                        <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Betreff:</span></b><span
                          class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Heel of
                        Hand or Top View</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"
                    size="3"><span style="font-size:
                      12.0pt">Hi Val and Adam,<br>
                          I also have a question about the "Heel of Hand
                      or Top
                      View" where we can use either handshape.  Are
                      these only
                      interchangeable when parallel to the Floor Plane
                      and pointing straight
                      forward?  And only for flat hands or fist, or
                      specifically just for the
                      ones listed in chapter 11?<br>
                      <br>
                      <image001.gif><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                  <p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                        style="font-size:12.0pt">email:<span
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                          href="mailto:duncanjonathan@yahoo.ca">duncanjonathan@yahoo.ca</a><br>
                                <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a
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                          href="mailto:joyoduncan@gmail.com">joyoduncan@gmail.com</a><br>
                        Cel Honduras: (504)3141-1171<br>
                        Tel USA: (347)875-8442<span
                          class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
                        Skype: yojoduncan<br>
                        <br>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://www.signwriterstudio.com/">SignWriter
                          Studio</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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