<div dir="ltr"><div>The heel of hand, as of right now, always has a gap. I personally like it because it is easier to read the difference between them and angled and cup hands. True, there are several other differences between them that would still make them possible to read, but the gap reiterates it (at least for me).<br>
<br></div>Adam<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Bill Reese <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wreese01@tampabay.rr.com" target="_blank">wreese01@tampabay.rr.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Stefan,<br>
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At first, I was beginning to think the gap meant that the thumb was
beyond the heel of the hand. But then I realized that the thumb is
so close to the heel that it could be thought of as on the same
plane. Now if I was showing fingers bending down in the heel view,
they would be beyond the heel and a gap would seem to be natural
there. It's a common practice in art and drafting to leave such a
gap when indicating something is beyond. <br>
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Of course, that begs the standard - for if we show the thumb not
gapped and the fingers gapped, is that better than setting a rule
that all lines representing digits (fingers and thumb) when in the
heel view need to have a gap?<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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Bill</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB">Of course ... but we look
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Von:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> SignWriting
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[<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank">mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Im Auftrag von </span></b>Romero<br>
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Freitag, 20. September
2013 22:08<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">An:</span></b>
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Re: Heel of Hand or Top
View</span></font><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">it's still parallel to the floor<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Sep 20, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Stefan Wöhrmann
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB">I cannot follow the
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either...<u></u><u></u></span></font><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB">It does not make sense to
me to show the gap of the thumb if I am not
looking from Top View ...<u></u><u></u></span></font><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB">All best<u></u><u></u></span></font><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB">Stefan<u></u><u></u></span></font><u></u><u></u></p>
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Duncan<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Gesendet:</span></b><span> </span>Freitag,
20. September 2013 19:20<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">An:</span></b><span> </span><a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi Val and Adam,<br>
I also have a question about the "Heel of Hand
or Top
View" where we can use either handshape. Are
these only
interchangeable when parallel to the Floor Plane
and pointing straight
forward? And only for flat hands or fist, or
specifically just for the
ones listed in chapter 11?<br>
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