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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Valerie, Adam, Jonathan... <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>For some reason it is fun
to discuss this kind of “point of view” I know that the masters of
the software are in the position to “define” the “look”
of a symbol and compared to handwriting it would cause major trouble to change
anything... I know that ... and I can live and work with the symbol set as it
is – smile – (I do not have to use the symbols I feel not
comfortable with – and that is the way I write my documents.) On the
other hand ... compared to the look of the symbols in the “Lessons in
SignWring Textbook and Workbook – second Edition 1999 – there has
been a change in the presentation of some symbols. I bet that some of these
changes could be discussed ... But since the software – programmers all
over the world work with the given symbol set we would get in trouble if anyone
...well ..ok,,,, Hi Valerie I understand your point of view that things
(symbols) are now as they are... smile. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nevertheless –
would be interesting – apart from that to have a second look at what is
taken for granted ... <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The inventor of a symbol
might be so focused on his/her option that other ideas, opinions, point of
views might only confuse or cause trouble? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You know my enthusiasm
for SW and it is not on my mind to bother anybody with comments ...but it is
fun to look at spellings and writing styles in a very precice manner ;-)) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So Adam: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I looked at your </span></font><span
lang=EN-GB>list of the 5 hand's heel view palm facings that relate to the 5
hand symbol. – and compared the “heel view – symbols”
to the “Top view – symbols” wich are used by me all the time
;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Your number 4 counting from left makes me hesitate ...same
with the last one ... <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Even though I understand your idea behind this I would
prefer to “see” the thumb sticking out at a place that shows without
too much guessing which hand (right or left) is chosen. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt'>In this case I read the two lines as this: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt'>right right right right left left left left<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt'>right right right left left left left right<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><img width=524
height=103 id="_x0000_i1059" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CEB6B2.7452CB20"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I have to leave but will return
to our discussion as soon as I will be back. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Have a great weekend.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Stefan <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages
[mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Im
Auftra</span></b></span></font><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>g von </span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Adam Frost<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Samstag, 21. September
2013 00:21<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b>
SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: AW: Heel of Hand or
Top View</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Below is a list of the 5 hand's heel view palm facings that relate to
the 5 hand symbol. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><img width=32 height=32
id="_x0000_i1025"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D30x53_M15x29S14d10n15xn9"><img
width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1026"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D18x53_M9x35S14d12n9xn15"><img
width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1027"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D30x53_M15x29S14d14n15xn9"><img
width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1028"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D18x53_M9x35S14d16n9xn15"><img
width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1029"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D30x53_M15x29S14d18n15xn9"><img
width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1030"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D18x53_M9x35S14d1an9xn15"><img
width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1031"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D30x53_M15x29S14d1cn15xn9"><img
width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1032"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D18x53_M9x35S14d1en9xn15"><br>
<img width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1033"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D24x53_M12x35S14c30n12xn15">
<img width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1034"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D24x53_M12x35S14c40n12xn15"><img
width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1035"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D24x53_M12x35S14c50n12xn15"><img
width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1036"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D24x53_M12x35S14c48n12xn15"><img
width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1037"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D24x53_M12x35S14c38n12xn15"><img
width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1038"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D24x53_M12x35S14c48n12xn15"><img
width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1039"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D24x53_M12x35S14c58n12xn15"><img
width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1040"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D24x53_M12x35S14c40n12xn15"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>There are only 7 heel of hands in the current ISWA 2010. Here they are
with their respected hand symbols.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><img width=32 height=32
id="_x0000_i1041"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D30x53_M15x29S14d10n15xn9"><img
width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1042"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D30x53_M15x28S14f10n15xn8"><img
width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1043"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D29x53_M14x28S15110n14xn8"><img
width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1044"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D20x53_M10x24S15c10n10xn4"><img
width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1045"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D27x53_M13x25S15e10n13xn5"><img
width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1046"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D24x53_M12x25S1f610n12xn5"><img
width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1047"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D15x53_M7x25S20410n7xn5"><br>
<img width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1048"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D24x53_M12x35S14c30n12xn15">
<img width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1049"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D26x53_M13x35S14e30n13xn15">
<img width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1050"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D26x53_M13x35S15030n13xn15">
<img width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1051"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D12x53_M6x33S15a30n6xn13">
<img width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1052"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D19x53_M9x33S15d30n9xn13">
<img width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1053"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D24x53_M12x27S1f530n12xn7"><img
width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1054"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?font=png1&size=1&panel=D15x53_M7x27S20330n7xn7"><br>
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I didn't go through all of the palm facings as it is the same as the list at
the top. It should be noted that there are possibilities that people will write
the between rotations of the heel of hand as either facings they are between,
since you are looking to make searching for writings of the same sign with
different symbols. ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Adam<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>PS Val and I were talking about saying that there is the front view,
the top view, and then a heel view because it isn't really only the top view or
the front view but a view of its own that has a feel of both views in how they
are written.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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