<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14pt">no, the left hand is the white open hand, palm up, with thumb extended to the left, the right hand is the black -and- half black hand "playing" on the white hand "drum"...<br><div><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>cherie<br></span></div><div><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Charles Butler <chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM><br> <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, September 24, 2013 4:40 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Sign for Samba<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv9219127811"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><div><span>I am looking at the left hand (alone below) and the thumb is on a side that I can't wrap my head around. </span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:tahoma, 'new york', times, serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:tahoma, 'new york', times, serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>The left thumb is in the middle with the hand upward and out. That's not
possible if this is meant to be expressive. </span></div><div></div><div> </div><div>Charles Butler<br clear="none">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com<br clear="none">240-764-5748<br clear="none">Clear writing moves business forward.</div><div><br clear="none"></div> <div class="yiv9219127811yqt1530391722" id="yiv9219127811yqt18370"><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:tahoma, 'new york', times, serif;"> <div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Stefan Wöhrmann <stefanwoehrmann@GOOGLEMAIL.COM><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, September 24, 2013 1:05 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Sign for Samba<br
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<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;font-family:Arial;" lang="EN-GB">What about this with left
flat hand ? <img id="yiv9219127811_x0000_i1030" src="cid:1.548690724@web142801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com" height="123" width="153"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-weight:bold;font-family:Tahoma;">Von:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;"> SignWriting
List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Im Auftrag von </span></b>Gustavo Godoy<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Gesendet:</span></b> Dienstag, 24. September
2013 01:44<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">An:</span></b>
SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Betreff:</span></b> Re: Looking vor sign name
Rio de Janeiro</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal"><font face="Georgia" size="3"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia;">No, I think I didn't explain very well =p</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal"><font face="Georgia" size="3"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia;">The handshape and orientation of the left hand is this</span></font><img id="yiv9219127811_x0000_i1025" src="cid:2.548690724@web142801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com" alt="Imagem inline 1" height="52" width="50"><font face="Georgia"><span style="font-family:Georgia;"> ,
as if it were a pandeiro, not holding one pandeiro.</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">2013/9/23 Stefan Wöhrmann <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@googlemail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@googlemail.com">stefanwoehrmann@googlemail.com</a>></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;font-family:Arial;" lang="EN-GB">Hi Gustavo, </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;font-family:Arial;" lang="EN-GB">looking at you-tube videos ... I tried to write
it this way – </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;font-family:Arial;" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;font-family:Arial;" lang="EN-GB">left hand holding the pandeiro – right hand makes
the thumb drumming ;-) </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;font-family:Arial;" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;font-family:Arial;" lang="EN-GB">What do you think? </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;font-family:Arial;" lang="EN-GB"><img id="yiv9219127811_x0000_i1026" src="cid:3.548690724@web142801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com" border="0" height="157" width="173"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;font-family:Arial;" lang="EN-GB">All best Stefan </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-weight:bold;font-family:Tahoma;" lang="EN-GB">Von:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;" lang="EN-GB">
SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.ED" target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.ED">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.ED</a></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;">U] <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Im Auftrag von </span></b>Gustavo
Godoy<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Gesendet:</span></b> Montag, 23. September
2013 23:37</span></font></div>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">An:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Betreff:</span></b> Re: Looking vor sign name
Rio de Janeiro</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Georgia" size="3"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia;">I think
that sign is a "iconic imitation" of the playng of '<i><span style="font-style:italic;">pandeiro</span></i>' (</span></font><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pandeiro_in_hands.jpg">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pandeiro_in_hands.jpg</a><font face="Georgia"><span style="font-family:Georgia;">) - that is: the location is the
'passive' hand (an iconic pandeiro), and the active makes the
"druming" (shaking the hand from the wrist). </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Georgia" size="3"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia;">Sorry
but I cannot insert this sign in the SignPuddle...</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">2013/9/23 Stefan
Wöhrmann <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@googlemail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@googlemail.com">stefanwoehrmann@googlemail.com</a>></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;font-family:Arial;">Hi Gustavo ...</span></font></div>
<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;font-family:Arial;"> </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;font-family:Arial;" lang="EN-GB">Wow – thnk you so much for your quick answer</span></font></div>
<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;font-family:Arial;" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;font-family:Arial;" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;font-family:Arial;" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;font-family:Arial;" lang="EN-GB">Any idea about a sign for “Samba” ?</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;font-family:Arial;" lang="EN-GB">Stefan</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-weight:bold;font-family:Tahoma;">Von:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;"> SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages
[mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>]
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Im Auftrag von </span></b>Gustavo Godoy<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Gesendet:</span></b> Montag, 23. September
2013 22:51<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">An:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Betreff:</span></b> Re: Looking vor sign name
Rio de Janeiro</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Georgia" size="3"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia;">Rio de
Janeiro, Handshape [Y], Movement: double 'brush' going down in the
upper/proximal<u> location </u>of the arm.</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=12&sgn=46&sid=2940&sTrm=rio+de+janeiro&type=any&sTxt=&sSrc=&">http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=12&sgn=46&sid=2940&sTrm=rio+de+janeiro&type=any&sTxt=&sSrc=&</a></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">2013/9/23 Stefan
Wöhrmann <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@googlemail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@googlemail.com">stefanwoehrmann@googlemail.com</a>></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;">Hi friends
from Brazil, </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;"> </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;">can you
support me? </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;" lang="EN-GB">I
am looking for the name sign of Rio de Janeiro and a sign for the
dance “Samba” </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;" lang="EN-GB">Can
you offer a SignPuddle - graphic.. I need to translate tomorrow at school
a document... </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;" lang="EN-GB">Thank
you very much</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;" lang="EN-GB">All
best </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><u><font face="Georgia" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Georgia;">____gustavo
godoy___</span></font></u></div>
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<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Georgia" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Georgia;">"as
frágeis flores da diferença precisam da penumbra para subsistir" (CLS)</span></font></div>
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godoy___</span></font></u></div>
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<div class="yiv9219127811MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Georgia" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Georgia;">"as
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