<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Ah, MY MISTAKE. It's a group 6. </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>I had another graphic for another discussion right next to it. Are we now on the same PAGE and SHAPE as it were? </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;
"><span><br></span></div><div></div><div> </div><div>Charles Butler<br>chazzer3332000@yahoo.com<br>240-764-5748<br>Clear writing moves business forward.</div><div><br></div> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; "> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Adam Frost <icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, September 29, 2013 11:21 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: hand shape BSL 9 - 01-07-009-01-02-01<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv1488667228"><div>It isn't in group 7 because the pinky is the active finger. I don't believe I ever said it was an
07. If you are talking of the subject line, that was what you had placed before. :-) I had only said that the ID that people were referring to for the specific handshape and rotation was 01-06-009-01-01-03. <div><br></div><div>Adam</div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 29, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Charles Butler wrote:</div><br class="yiv1488667228Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-size: 12pt; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; "><div><span>Adam, </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; "><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; "><span>How did that move from a 06 (signs that differentiate with the
little finger) to an 07 (signs that differentiate with the ring finger). That makes no sense. A pinky is not a ring finger. I just opened the ASL SignPuddle today and it is still an 01-06 sign not an 01-07 sign. </span></div><div></div><div> </div><div>Charles Butler<br><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a><br>240-764-5748<br>Clear writing moves business forward.</div><div><br></div> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; "> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Adam Frost <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank" href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM">icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM</a>><br> <b><span
style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, September 29, 2013 10:17 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: hand shape BSL 9 - 01-07-009-01-02-01<br> </font> </div> <div class="yiv1488667228y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv1488667228"><div>The specific ID that is being asked for here is 01-06-009-01-01-03. :-)<div><br></div><div>Adam</div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:39 AM, Charles Butler wrote:</div><br class="yiv1488667228Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-size: 12pt; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; "><div><span>Isn't this already covered under 01-006-009-01-02-01. This
is Under the handshapes that govern the use of the little finger. Wouldn't this be that sign? That's Group 6 which shows the little finger forward and bent with the other fingers straight. I believe it is used in Ethiopian sign language so it was already written. The point of the little finger now being shown is that it is down and bent, not up and visible. </span></div><div></div><div> </div><div>Charles Butler<br><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a><br>240-764-5748<br>Clear writing moves business forward.</div><div><br></div> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; "> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Stefan Woehrmann <<a
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<div class="yiv1488667228MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">Hi Valerie, Adam, Maureen and friends, </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv1488667228MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">for some hours I am busy to look at BSL signs... </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv1488667228MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">There are various online-video – tutorials that
show a variety of how to sign the numbers ...;-)) </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv1488667228MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">Just a question ... do we have in the actual symbol
set the hand shape some of the signers prefer for signing “nine” </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv1488667228MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "> </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv1488667228MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">Flat-hand ... or five-hand but pinkey bent toward
palm ( personally I have problems to perform this hand shape without to much
effort) </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv1488667228MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">What do you think about my attempt to construct this
hand shape? </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv1488667228MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">All best </span></font></div>
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