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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Maureen, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>thank you for your answer
... I understand .. and it is as you explain ...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><img width=130 height=74
id="_x0000_i1032" src="cid:image003.gif@01CEBD1D.32DEB340"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Perhaps I do not belong
to this group “</span></font><font face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-family:Calibri'>Older people with artritus prefer  to tuck the
Thumb in<br>
and have the 4 Fingers  straight.. ... no artritus ..so far ... smile ... and
 “older people” starting at what age ..smile <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>No ..the reason for my message has been a SignWriting
related interest. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>I am eager to be able to write whatever I see ... and
in this case I do not discuss a way of how to sign ... but ... if I see somebody
signing “NINE” this way  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><img width=126 height=105 id="_x0000_i1031"
src="cid:image001.jpg@01CEBD1C.FAA0A8D0"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>I would like to write it in SignWriting ... <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>My suggestion would be to construct it this way .. if
there is not the given symbol in our symbols set .... but maybe it is and I
only cannot find it ...or Valerie may suggest a second (smile) way to write it?
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><img width=127 height=82 id="_x0000_i1033"
src="cid:image004.gif@01CEBD1D.32DEB340"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>All best <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Stefan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages
[mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Im
Auftrag von </span></b>Maureen Doyle<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Sonntag, 29. September
2013 13:48<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b>
SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: hand shape BSL 9</span></font><span
lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face=Calibri><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Hi Stefa</span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'>n. <br>
<br>
 That   SW is    fine  <br>
 You may have found different ways of   doing "9" <br>
<br>
 as there are different signs  for 9 depending on the area.. <br>
<br>
Older people with artritus prefer  to tuck the Thumb in<br>
and have the 4 Fingers  straight.. <br>
 We had a  member who didnt have a thumb  so this  was
their way for 9.<br>
<br>
The easiest (9)  for children is Just  holding up their hands 
and leaving the Right Thumb tucked in.. <br>
<br>
 Hope this helps.. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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id="_x0000_i1026" src="http://graphics.hotmail.com/emthup.gif">  </span></font><font
size=6 color="#3300cc" face=Cursive><span style='font-size:24.0pt;font-family:
Cursive;color:#3300CC'>Maureen </span></font><font size=6 face=Cursive><span
style='font-size:24.0pt;font-family:Cursive'> </span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 12:46:35
+0200<br>
From: stefanwoehrmann@GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE<br>
Subject: hand shape BSL 9<br>
To: SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hi Valerie, Adam, Maureen  and friends, </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>for some hours I am busy to look at BSL signs... </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>There are various online-video – tutorials that
show a variety of how to sign the numbers ...;-)) </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Just a question ... do we have in the actual symbol
set the hand shape some of the signers prefer for signing “nine” </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Flat-hand ... or  five-hand  but pinkey
bent toward palm ( personally I have problems to perform this hand shape
without to much effort) </span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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src="cid:image001.jpg@01CEBD1C.FAA0A8D0">   </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>What do you think about my attempt to construct this
hand shape? </span></font><font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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