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Hello André,<br>
What do you mean by "I tried sign bank 85 but I could never
upload the Québec Sign language files I copied from Sign puddle". I
was thinking that maybe you mean't the signpuddle number of the
puddle where in the url sgn=85, but that is India's signpuddle.
The for "Dictionnaire Quebec" is sgn=47.<br>
<br>
I imagine you mean that you downloaded the puddle from
SignPuddle and couldn't import it. Is this what you meant?<br>
<br>
I just imported it and it worked fine for me. Let me know where you
are getting stuck.<br>
<br>
If you meant uploading to SignPuddle then the bad news it that
SignPuddle can only import one sign or document at a time.<br>
<br>
Exporting from SignWriter Studio to PersonalPuddle and vice versa
is much more feasible though not perfect.<br>
<br>
<br>
Jonathan<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/2/2013 6:20 PM, André L wrote:<br>
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Hello Jonathan,<br>
<br>
thank you for the work around.<br>
I will try it this weekend.<br>
I will try to contact Steve to assist me because I have over a
hundred signs to process.<br>
I have many more signs in draft in SignWriter studio.<br>
<br>
Also, I tried sign bank 85 but I could never upload the Québec
Sign language files I copied from Sign puddle, so I gave up. I
would have like to build a dictionnary.<br>
<br>
<br>
André Lemyre<br>
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<hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 16:29:30 -0600<br>
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:duncanjonathan@YAHOO.CA">duncanjonathan@YAHOO.CA</a><br>
Subject: Re: Sign puddle online does not translate existing
words<br>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br>
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Hi Andre,<br>
When exporting from SignWriter Studio to Sign Puddle there
is no way to directly to a SignMaker entry. This is a
limitation of SignPuddle. I have run into this limitation
myself personally trying to add and modify sign to the puddle
from SignWriter Studio. SignPuddle doesn't yet have adequate
import/export or synching capabilities. I have written to
Steve about it but he hasn't been able to make it a priority
yet.<br>
If you just have a few signs then this is they way to do it.<br>
<ol>
<li>In SignWriter Studio when positioned on the sign, click
Edit/Copy/Copy Sign to Sign Puddle or press Ctrl-Alt-C.
It shows the sign in SignPuddle in your browser.</li>
<li>Click on the puddle you want to save to.</li>
<li>In Terms type "temp"</li>
<li>Click Add</li>
<li>Click Copy Sign From SignText</li>
<li>Click Copy Sign</li>
<li>Click on SignPuddle you want to save to</li>
<li>In Terms type in the term for the sign</li>
<li>Click Add</li>
<li>Click on Search by Words or Search by Signs </li>
<li>In Terms and Titles type "temp"</li>
<li>Click on temp</li>
<li>Click Delete Entry</li>
<li>Click Delete Entry</li>
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<br>
<br>
Otherwise you might ask Steve if you export to an SPML file if
he can add them for you.<br>
<br>
I hope his helps<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Jonathan<br>
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<div class="ecxmoz-cite-prefix">On 10/2/2013 11:41 AM, Valerie
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<div>Andre, Steve, Charles and Jonathan -</div>
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<div>No worries everyone. Thank you for your messages. And
thank you for bringing this issue up, which as far as I
know, from my experience, is specific between the two
programs: SignWriter Studio and SignPuddle. I noticed this
issue myself a long time ago and did mention it once to
Jonathan, but there is so much to do it got sidetracked.
It seems that exporting signs from the SignWriter Studio
dictionary end up as SignText in SignPuddle instead of
dictionary entries…so the signs are not made with
SignMaker, but instead with SignWriter Studio's
dictionary, but they need to end up as the equivalent to
signs made with SignMaker… not as SignText …so we need
both Jonathan's and Steve's help with this one -</div>
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<div>Thank you, Andre, by the way, for your documents - they
are charming! And thank you for pointing this out to us -</div>
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<div>Val ;-)</div>
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<div>On Oct 2, 2013, at 10:11 AM, Charles Butler <<a
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href="mailto:chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM">chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM</a>>
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<div><span>IF this does not work from a compatible
program then the compatibility program of the
major SignWriting programs need to all be made
compatible. I know that this is a challenge,
but making a new signwriting translator
without a compatibility check seems a little
futile. If the main database can't retrieve
the words, then the point of Open Source is
not being fulfilled. </span></div>
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<div style="font-family: tahoma, "new
york", times, serif; font-size: 16px;
font-style: normal; background-color:
transparent;">To do Open Source means that all
output from a given input must be compatible to
the central databank, in the case, SignBank,
SignPuddle, and all of those others created. </div>
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york", times, serif; font-size: 16px;
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transparent;"><br>
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york", times, serif; font-size: 16px;
font-style: normal; background-color:
transparent;">Is it not part of the spec of
importing signs? Is there not a command to say
"which of the following compatible programs are
you using to import to SignPuddle?" "have you
contact Steve Slevinski to ensure that the
program will in fact import your signs in a form
that is acceptable to the data retrieval
function."</div>
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york", times, serif; font-size: 16px;
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<div style="font-family: tahoma, "new
york", times, serif; font-size: 16px;
font-style: normal; background-color:
transparent;">Else, it is a very large learning
curve. </div>
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<div>Charles Butler<br>
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href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a><br>
240-764-5748<br>
Clear writing moves business forward.</div>
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Re: Sign puddle online does not translate
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<div dir="ltr">Hello,<br>
<br>
Many of the words I entered in sign
puddle using sign studio are not
displayed in the translate feature.<br>
Only the words are displayed without
sign.<br>
However, with a seach on the same
words, the sign is displayed.<br>
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Hi Andre,<br>
<br>
The translate feature works with
individual signs that were created in
SignMaker. <br>
<br>
The translate feature does not work with
sign texts that were created with
SignText.<br>
<br>
Looking at the "assis" entry:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="ecxyiv9907572040moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/canvas.php?ui=1&sgn=47&sid=4400"
target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/canvas.php?ui=1&sgn=47&sid=4400</a><br>
<br>
<img
id="ecx51310a9c-289b-486e-b797-184cbf168c13"
alt=""
src="cid:part6.02090101.08070504@yahoo.ca"
width="395" height="230"><br>
<br>
The sign is boxed and a lower font
size. This indicates it was created
with SignText. Under the "Source", you
can see the "SignText data" links. This
sign will not work in the current
translate.<br>
<br>
Here is "assistant" in the same
dictionary.<br>
<br>
<img
id="ecxf9aeb7cf-1b12-4d5f-be76-9d5dc7b522f8"
alt=""
src="cid:part7.07000003.02060501@yahoo.ca"
width="429" height="211"><br>
<br>
Notice that it is not boxed and a larger
font size. This indicates is was
created with SignMaker. Under the
"Search.." links, you can see the "Sign
data" links. This sign will work in
translate.<br>
<br>
<br>
So that's the problem. You say you
created this with "sign studio". Are
you talking about Jonathan's SignWriter
Studio? Or did you use SignText?<br>
<br>
The solution is to move the signs from
the sign text area to individual signs.
I'm not sure the best way to do this.<br>
<br>
How many entries are like this?<br>
<br>
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