<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; "><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">Hi Jonathan and everyone,</span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">If you have an Apple computer, here are the instructions:</span></div><ol start="1" type="1"><li class="MsoNormal">Apple Universal Access</li><li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">Change the contrast (white on black)</span></li><li class="MsoNormal">Click on <span lang="EN-CA">"</span>Firefox<span lang="EN-CA">"</span></li><li class="MsoNormal">SignPuddle</li><li class="MsoNormal">Choose the Quebec flag</li><li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">Click on the blind or on the sighted dictionary</span></li><li class="MsoNormal">Click on <span lang="EN-CA">"</span>Connexion<span lang="EN-CA">"</span><span lang="EN-CA"> </span>(Login)</li><li class="MsoNormal">Click on <span lang="EN-CA">"</span><i>chercher par les mots</i><span lang="EN-CA">"</span><span lang="EN-CA"> </span>(search by words)</li><li class="MsoNormal">Type "<i>malades"</i></li><li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">See the source: André L.</span></li><li class="MsoNormal">Click on <span lang="EN-CA">"</span><i>réécrire le signe</i><span lang="EN-CA">"</span> (rewrite the sign)</li><li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">Do you see a sign? (No, the sign disappears)</span></li></ol><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">But you can</span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">11. Click on "<i>réécrire SignText</i>" <span> </span>(rewrite SignText)</span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">12. It works well, but I never used a "write SignText button" before and I never try to edit a sign because I did not know how to edit it in SignText. I will have to study the features </span><span lang="EN-CA">in SignText </span><span lang="EN-CA">("delete, change, add, move", and so on).</span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">Best regards,</span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">André</span></div></span></div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">De : </span> Jonathan Duncan <<a href="mailto:duncanjonathan@YAHOO.CA">duncanjonathan@YAHOO.CA</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Répondre à : </span> "SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages" <<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date : </span> Fri, 04 Oct 2013 08:46:52 -0600<br><span style="font-weight:bold">À : </span> <<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Objet : </span> Re: Sign puddle online does not translate existing words<br></div><div><br></div><div>
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Hi André,<br>
I am not sure why the sign disappears from the SignMaker box
when you click on the rewrite button. Maybe because you didn't
create the sign or you are not the puddle administrator. As far as
I know this isn't a SignPuddle/SignWriter issue. Maybe someone else
can help you with this one.<br>
<br>
But if you want the signs to be translatable, find the sign, <br>
<img src="cid:part1.06060108.05080502@yahoo.ca" alt=""><br>
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then click on "Copy Sign from SignText"<br>
<br>
then click on "copier le signe"<br>
<br>
the choose the "Dictonnaire Quebec"<br>
<img src="cid:part2.05070206.00060807@yahoo.ca" alt=""><br>
<br>
Fill out the information<br>
<img src="cid:part3.09030304.03020106@yahoo.ca" alt=""><br>
<br>
Click on ajouter.<br>
<br>
Then you can search for the sign<br>
<img src="cid:part4.04090008.03080002@yahoo.ca" alt=""><br>
<br>
and click on "réécrire le signe" to fix the copy of the sign you
have just made, of course the original stays unchanged.<br>
<br>
<br>
Now you can go to Traduire <br>
<br>
type in "malade"<br>
<br>
and get the sign.<br>
<img src="cid:part5.08060709.04030404@yahoo.ca" alt=""><br>
<br>
I hope this helps<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Jonathan<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/2/2013 5:57 PM, André Thibeault
wrote:<br>
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<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'bookman
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; " lang="EN-CA">Hi Steve and everyone,</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; " lang="EN-CA"> </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; " lang="EN-CA">Steve explained to SW list the difference
between individual signs with <span style="font-style:
italic; ">SignMaker </span>and sign texts with <span style="font-style: italic; ">SignText</span>. I do
understand them now.</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; " lang="EN-CA"> </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; " lang="EN-CA">Using the <span style="font-style: italic; ">SignWriter
Studio dictionary</span>, André L. created signs and
exported them into <span style="font-style: italic; ">SignPuddle</span>.
When the sign is misspelled, I try to edit it in <span style="font-style: italic; ">SignMaker </span>from <span style="font-style: italic; ">SignPuddle</span>. I click
on it from source André L. on the rewrite button. But the
sign disappears from the SignMaker box. Therefore, I
cannot edit it because <span style="font-style: italic; ">SignMaker </span>from <span style="font-style: italic; ">SignPuddle </span>does not
work with sign texts from the<span style="font-style:
italic; ">SignWriter Studio dictionary</span>. Am I
right, or am I missing something here? <br>
</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; " lang="EN-CA"> </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; " lang="EN-CA">Best regards,</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; " lang="EN-CA"> </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; " lang="EN-CA">André</span></div>
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BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">De : </span> Stephen E Slevinski
Jr <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:slevin@SIGNPUDDLE.NET">slevin@SIGNPUDDLE.NET</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Répondre à : </span>
"SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date : </span> Wed, 02 Oct
2013 12:03:23 -0500<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">À : </span> <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Objet : </span> Re: Sign
puddle online does not translate existing words<br>
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On 10/2/13 11:37 AM, André L wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hello,<br>
<br>
Many of the words I entered in sign puddle using sign
studio are not displayed in the translate feature.<br>
Only the words are displayed without sign.<br>
However, with a seach on the same words, the sign is
displayed.<br>
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Hi Andre,<br>
<br>
The translate feature works with individual signs that were
created in SignMaker. <br>
<br>
The translate feature does not work with sign texts that
were created with SignText.<br>
<br>
Looking at the "assis" entry:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/canvas.php?ui=1&sgn=47&sid=4400">http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/canvas.php?ui=1&sgn=47&sid=4400</a><br>
<br>
<img moz-do-not-send="true" src="cid:part1.01070404.01020105@signpuddle.net" alt=""><br>
<br>
The sign is boxed and a lower font size. This indicates it
was created with SignText. Under the "Source", you can see
the "SignText data" links. This sign will not work in the current translate.<br>
<br>
Here is "assistant" in the same dictionary.<br>
<br>
<img moz-do-not-send="true" src="cid:part2.08050802.00090406@signpuddle.net" alt=""><br>
<br>
Notice that it is not boxed and a larger font size. This
indicates is was created with SignMaker. Under the
"Search.." links, you can see the "Sign data" links. This sign will work in translate.<br>
<br>
<br>
So that's the problem. You say you created this with "sign
studio". Are you talking about Jonathan's SignWriter
Studio? Or did you use SignText?<br>
<br>
The solution is to move the signs from the sign text area to
individual signs. I'm not sure the best way to do this.<br>
<br>
How many entries are like this?<br>
<br>
Regards, </div>
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