<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">SignWriting List<div>October 14, 2013</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you, Gerard, for all of your support …</div><div><br></div><div>Steve is planning to move all the files from the ASL Wikipedia on Wikimedia Labs over to the Incubator just as soon as he can breathe from the overwork he is experiencing right now… So we will definitely have an Incubator version of the ASL Wikipedia in the future, but we are just not there right now…</div><div><br></div><div>Since we do not have the software ready at this moment, for classrooms of deaf students to be able to edit directly into the Wikipedia, while we are waiting for that software to be completed, Nancy, Adam and others are working on articles. I am grateful to have the articles we do have, because they are already useful for Deaf and ASL students. I have been printing them and using them that way, and people do visit the articles on Wikimedia Labs.</div><div><br></div><div>But I can envision classrooms of Deaf students writing articles in ASL in the future - for sure!</div><div><br></div><div>There are people coming from several countries to our SignWriting Symposium 2014, specifically because they want to develop a Wikipedia in the sign languages of their countries…</div><div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>------------</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Oct 14, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Gerard Meijssen <<a href="mailto:gerard.meijssen@GMAIL.COM">gerard.meijssen@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Hoi,<div><br></div><div>For your information, I am a member of the language committee of the Wikimedia Foundation. Yes, the rule is that we need activity of multiple people and this and that. However, the fact of having people on a committee is also very much that we can bend the rules when there are good arguments for it.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The big reason why we need a Wikipedia in any sign language is because it will show that it is possible to have a Wikipedia in a sign language. The reason why I will support the first wikipedia in any sign language is because there are few things likely to get noticed as much as such a precedent.</div>
<div><br></div><div>This precedent is particularly important to anyone who communicates in any sign language. Given that there are still people who do not know that SignWriting exists this is really relevant to me.</div>
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<br></div><div>What I want is the children of any secondary school who use SignWriting for their sign language to have assignments that result in the publication in the Wikipedia for their sign language. Consider a class with 20 students, writing one article a week... How many Wikipedias could we have as a result ??</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div> Gerard</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 14 October 2013 21:04, Yair Rand <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yyairrand@gmail.com" target="_blank">yyairrand@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Great to see the ASL Wikipedia expanding. <div><br></div><div>I'm curious, though, whether activity on the site on wmflabs will qualify for the "develop an active test project" criterion necessary for final approval by the WMF and creation of <a href="http://ase.wikipedia.org/" target="_blank">ase.wikipedia.org</a> ? Test projects are typically set up as Wikimedia Incubator projects (for ASL, that would be <a href="https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/ase/M529x544S2ff00482x483S20500519x504S18517503x517" target="_blank">https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/ase/M529x544S2ff00482x483S20500519x504S18517503x517</a> ). Has the LangCom said anything about the acceptability of a non-Incubator-based test project?</div>
<div><br></div><div>According to Wikimedia Language Committee's unofficial status page for the ASL Wikipedia (<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_committee/Status/wp/ase" target="_blank">https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_committee/Status/wp/ase</a>), a test project is "generally considered active" if there have been over the "previous few months" at least three users making at least 10 edits each in each month.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Whether or not moving over to the Incubator is strictly necessary for final approval of the project, it might make sense to do so anyway at this point. Thanks to Steve Slevinski's gadget, page titles can be written in ASL on the Incubator (if I understand correctly, this can't be done on the labs site), ASL links are colored like normal text links, and no special signtext tags are necessary.</div>
<div><br></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Valerie Sutton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:signwriting@mac.com" target="_blank">signwriting@mac.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>SignWriting List<div>October 14, 2013</div><div><br></div></div><div>
Hi Nancy -</div><div>This is wonderful …I do not know anything about NASCAR so I look forward to reading your article in ASL!</div><div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>------</div><div><div>
<br></div><div><br><div><div>On Oct 14, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Romero <<a href="mailto:romero@SIGNWRITING.ORG" target="_blank">romero@SIGNWRITING.ORG</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">
Thank you Valerie!<div><br></div><div>Translating about NASCAR because of the variety (there's also a lot of $ invested in the sport; maybe they'll send us some! haha).</div><div><br></div><div>Nancy</div><div><br>
<div><div>On Oct 14, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:signwriting@mac.com" target="_blank">signwriting@mac.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">SignWriting List<div>
October 14, 2013</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you, Nancy, for the gift of these new articles in the ASL Wikipedia… I believe we have 35 articles now! This is such a blessing…</div><div><br></div><div>I really enjoyed reading the sign for Alaska ;-))</div>
<div><br></div><div>Alaska</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Alaska" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Alaska</a></div><div><br></div><div>Diabetes mellitus</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Diabetes_mellitus" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Diabetes_mellitus</a></div>
<div><br></div><div><div>USS Constellation</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/USS_Constellation" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/USS_Constellation</a></div><div><br></div><div>
Veterinary physician</div>
<div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Veterinary_physician" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Veterinary_physician</a></div></div><div><br></div><div>See below for the complete list of 35 articles….</div>
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35 ARTICLES IN THE ASL WIKIPEDIA, as of October 14, 2013<br><div><br></div><div><div>1</div><div>Abraham Lincoln</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln</a></div>
<div><br></div><div><div>2</div><div>Adam Frost</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Adam_Frost" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Adam_Frost</a></div><div><br></div><div><div>3</div>
<div>Alaska</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Alaska" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Alaska</a></div></div><div><br></div></div><div>4</div><div>Alice Cogswell</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Alice_Cogswell" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Alice_Cogswell</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>5</div><div>America The Beautiful</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/America_The_Beautiful" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/America_The_Beautiful</a></div><div>
<br></div><div>6</div><div>American Sign Language</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/American_Sign_Language" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/American_Sign_Language</a></div><div>
<br></div><div>7</div><div>Bill of Rights</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Bill_of_Rights" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Bill_of_Rights</a></div><div><br></div><div><div>8</div>
<div>California School for the Deaf, Riverside</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/CA_School_for_the_Deaf,_Riverside" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/CA_School_for_the_Deaf,_Riverside</a></div>
</div><div><br></div><div><div>9</div><div>Carol Padden</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Carol_Padden" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Carol_Padden</a></div></div><div><br></div>
<div>10</div><div>Chargers</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Chargers" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Chargers</a></div><div><br></div>11</div><div>Charles-Michel de l'Epee<br>
<a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Charles-Michel_de_l%27Epee" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Charles-Michel_de_l%27Epee</a></div><div><br></div><div><div>12</div><div>Deaf Culture</div>
<div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Deaf_Culture" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Deaf_Culture</a></div><div><br></div><div><div>13</div><div>Deaf History</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Deaf_History" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Deaf_History</a></div>
<div><br></div><div><div>14</div><div>Deaflympics</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Deaflympics" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Deaflympics</a></div></div></div><div><br></div>
<div>15</div><div>Diabetes mellitus</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Diabetes_mellitus" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Diabetes_mellitus</a></div><div><br></div><div>16</div>
<div>Disneyland</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Disneyland" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Disneyland</a></div><div><br></div><div>17</div><div>Falcon 50</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Falcon_50" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Falcon_50</a></div>
<div><br></div><div><div>18</div><div>George Washington</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/George_Washington" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/George_Washington</a></div><div><br>
</div><div><div>19</div><div>Gettysburg Address</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Gettysburg_Address" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Gettysburg_Address</a></div><div><br></div>
<div>20</div><div>Hail to Chief</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Hail_to_Chief" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Hail_to_Chief</a></div><div><br></div></div></div></div><div>21</div>
<div>Helen, Georgia</div><div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Helen,_Georgia" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Helen,_Georgia</a></div><div><br></div><div><div>22</div><div>Israeli Sign Language</div>
<div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Israeli_Sign_Language" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Israeli_Sign_Language</a></div><div><br></div></div><div><div>23</div><div>Lady or Tiger?</div>
<div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Lady_or_Tiger%3F" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Lady_or_Tiger%3F</a></div></div><br>24</div><div>Laurent Clerc<br><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Laurent_Clerc" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Laurent_Clerc</a></div>
<div><br></div><div><div>25</div><div>Lou Fant</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Lou_Fant" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Lou_Fant</a></div><br><div>26</div><div>National Theatre of the Deaf</div>
<div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/National_Theatre_of_the_Deaf" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/National_Theatre_of_the_Deaf</a></div><div><br></div><div>27</div><div>Ocean</div><div>
<a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Ocean" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Ocean</a></div><div><br></div><div>28</div><div>Paramedic</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Paramedic" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Paramedic</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>29</div><div>Physician Assistant</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Physician_assistant_%28PA%29" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Physician_assistant_%28PA%29</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>30</div><div>Star-Spangled Banner</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Star-Spangled_Banner" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Star-Spangled_Banner</a></div><div>
<br></div><div>31</div><div>Sun</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Sun" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Sun</a></div><div><br></div><div><div>32</div><div>USS Constellation</div>
<div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/USS_Constellation" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/USS_Constellation</a></div></div><div><br></div><div><div>33</div><div>Valerie Sutton</div><div>
<a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Valerie_Sutton" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Valerie_Sutton</a></div></div><div><br></div><div><div>34</div><div>Veterinary physician</div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Veterinary_physician" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Veterinary_physician</a></div>
<div><br></div></div><div>35</div><div>William Stokoe</div></div><div><a href="http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/William_Stokoe" target="_blank">http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/William_Stokoe</a></div><div><br>
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