<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">SignWriting List<div>November 6, 2013</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you Nancy, Stefan and James!</div><div><br></div><div>This is equally as marvelous, Stefan - Where do you get such cute ideas? Ha!</div><div><br></div><div><img height="497" width="612" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" apple-inline="yes" id="C22FE467-67AF-47C9-AA4E-8245A3BC6FE7" src="cid:5F829215-9EB0-4DAA-977A-A6FD260EB91F"></div><div><br></div><div>Regarding the Nobel Prize…I think that all of the signwriters…past, present and future…should collectively stand on the stage at the Nobel ceremony and receive the Nobel Prize for Literature, since SignWriting has made it possible to write literature in the sign languages of the world - think of all the literature you all have collectively written - the list is quite extensive - there are now thousands of documents from all around the world - Hard to fit them all on stone tablets however!</div><div><br></div><div>May I share these two stone tablets for fun on our web site? Are they copyright free?</div><div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>-------</div><div><br><div><div>On Nov 6, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Stefan Woehrmann <<a href="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE">stefanwoehrmann@GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="DE" link="blue" vlink="blue" style="font-family: MalayalamSangamMN; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Hi Valerie and friends...<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">well James I feel very proud to read your comment. People should know that it has been James Shepard – Kegl with his work in Nicaragua who made me believe that SignWriting will change the world for my deaf students... and it is long ago that we typed lots and lots of DOS documents with the good old SW4.4 Programm...At that time (almost ten years ago) I studied several SW – dictionaries of different SL of the world in order to get a feeling for how to arrange the symbols for the entries. Good to know that there are some more documents from old times. Personally I feel lucky to find this one...<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><img width="612" height="497" id="_x0000_i1027" apple-inline="yes" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:image002.jpg@01CEDB3A.801BBA50"><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">All best<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Stefan ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-align: center;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">Von:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Im Auftrag von<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>Romero<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Gesendet:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mittwoch, 6. November 2013 20:50<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">An:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Betreff:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: Genesis of SignWriting</span></font><o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Right after Valerie :c)<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On Nov 6, 2013, at 11:25 AM, James Shepard <<a href="mailto:kegl@MAINE.RR.COM" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">kegl@MAINE.RR.COM</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div link="blue" vlink="purple" style="orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; widows: 2; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-spacing: 0px;"><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Well…this discovery will certainly shake up the linguistic world – back to the drawing board on everything we thought we knew about language evolution and early civilizations. You could get a Nobel prize for this, Stefan!<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-left: 36pt;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -18pt;"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Wingdings"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Wingdings; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">n</span></font><font size="1" color="#1f497d"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 7pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">James<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> </span></font></span><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:SW-<a href="mailto:L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><font color="purple"><span style="color: purple;">L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</span></font></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>Valerie Sutton<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, November 6, 2013 2:17 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><font color="purple"><span style="color: purple;">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</span></font></a><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: Genesis of SignWriting<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><u1:p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></u1:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;">SignWriting List<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><u1:p></u1:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;">November 6, 2013<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><u1:p></u1:p></div><div><u1:p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></u1:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;">Ha! This is gorgeous and also with whimsy, Stefan…Thank you for this….There is a DanceWriting figure taking a bow on one knee on the bottom of the dress of the figure on the left - very cute!<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><u1:p></u1:p></div><div><u1:p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></u1:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;"><image002.jpg><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><u1:p></u1:p></div><div><u1:p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></u1:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;">Did you know, when the SignWriting Script was categorized as one of the world’s scripts by the International Bureau of Standardization (ISO) in 2006 (</span></font><font face="Helvetica"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Helvetica;"> <a href="http://www.unicode.org/iso15924/iso15924-codes.html" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><font color="purple"><span style="color: purple;">http://www.unicode.org/iso15924/iso15924-codes.html</span></font></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>)</span></font><span lang="EN-US">, the discussion was at the time that we were similar to Hieroglyphics… I questioned that but then there was not a good way to categorize SignWriting but as a “Featural Alphabet” like Korean Hangul ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></div><u1:p></u1:p></div><div><u1:p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></u1:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;">Val ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><u1:p></u1:p></div><div><u1:p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></u1:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;">———<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><u1:p></u1:p></div><div><u1:p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></u1:p></div><div><u1:p><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;">On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Honza <<a href="mailto:honza@ruce.cz" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><font color="purple"><span style="color: purple;">honza@ruce.cz</span></font></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><u1:p></u1:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;"><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><u1:p></u1:p><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;">Nice work Stefan :)<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><u1:p></u1:p></div><div><u1:p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></u1:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;">Honza<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><u1:p></u1:p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><u1:p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></u1:p></p><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;">On 6 November 2013 18:38, Stefan Woehrmann <<a href="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@gebaerdenschrift.de" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><font color="purple"><span style="color: purple;">stefanwoehrmann@gebaerdenschrift.de</span></font></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><u1:p></u1:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Hi Honza, Valerie and everybody...</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">when I did this kind of research a decade ago I found some very interesting documents that may lead to the assumption that SignWriting is a notation system that existed already long time ago... smile</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">L.I.F.E</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font><span lang="EN-US"><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">All best</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font><span lang="EN-US"><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Stefan </span></font><span lang="EN-US"><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font><span lang="EN-US"><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font><span lang="EN-US"><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-align: center;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></span></font></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">Von:</span></font></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> </span></font></span><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><font color="purple"><span style="color: purple;">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</span></font></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Im Auftrag von<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>Valerie Sutton<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Gesendet:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Mittwoch, 6. November 2013 17:54<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">An:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><font color="purple"><span style="color: purple;">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</span></font></a><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Betreff:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: Genesis of SignWriting</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">SignWriting List<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">November 6, 2013<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hello Honza and everyone -<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Thank you for starting this interesting thread, about the “genesis” or the background and history not only to SignWriting, but to writing sign languages throughout history. There is a lot to discuss.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Regarding Roch-Ambroise Auguste Bébian…<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I first heard about Bébian’s system in September 2007, when my friend Shane Gilchrist (hi Shane!) suggested that I purchase a book called “I See a Voice” by Jonathan Rée. I ordered it from<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://amazon.com/" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><font color="purple"><span style="color: purple;">Amazon.com</span></font></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>and then enjoyed skimming the chapters related to writing sign languages, from page 293-324. It was there that I first learned about Bébian, but I was immediately attracted to his system and his feelings about writing sign languages and felt a “connection” (you know what I mean - almost a spiritual feeling that we were on the same plane, so to speak). And there are many other interesting stories and information in the book which makes me think I should read the book more carefully - I confess I have only skimmed the book.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">But yes, Honza, I see the connection, but no, I did not know about Bébian at the time of my first writing Danish Sign Language and a South Pacific Sign Language back in Denmark in 1974, 1975 and 1976.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I was a little different than the other developers of writing systems, in that I did not come from a knowledge of any sign language, nor did I have a desire to learn linguistics. I loved languages in general, but that is not a linguistic interest. I was already writing the dances of the Bournonville tradition at the Royal Theater in Copenhagen with my invention in 1974, and when I started writing the movement of both hearing people and Danish Sign Language from a video at the University of Copenhagen starting in 1974, I was sharing my time between writing dance at the Royal theater and writing sign language movement and hearing-person’s gestures at the University - I saw myself as a movement notator and not a sign language writer at the time…but overtime, as I wrote more of Danish Sign Language on the video, I became aware it was a real language…I self-published two booklets on writing sign languages - one on writing Danish Sign Language, and the other on writing signs from a South Pacific Island with Rolf Kuschel. These two booklets are mentioned on this web page, and I could scan them and post them on the web if you wish…would you like to see these old historic documents?<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/library/history/hist003.html" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><font color="purple"><span style="color: purple;">http://www.signwriting.org/library/history/hist003.html</span></font></a><u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><image003.jpg><u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">My influence was definitely Friedrich Albert Zorn (<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Albert_Zorn" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><font color="purple"><span style="color: purple;">http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Albert_Zorn</span></font></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>), and Walt Disney’s animation that places movement in drawings frame by frame by frame from left to right on a five-lined staff that can fit under music… That was my starting point…<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Then I started writing sign language in stick figures at the University go Copenhagen… Later I learned about Dr.Stokoe and his research…<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I think starting visual with stick figures, with no linguistic judgements, had great value, and I still believe in the visual, but it is the writers we work with, like yourself, Honza, and in my case, the Deaf Action Committee, that had the greatest influence on our writing expressively, in vertical columns, without full stick figures…the way we write today…and the internet had a big influence…where I and others meet people like yourself - as we write we influence each other...<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I bet there were many other writing systems for sign languages before and after Bébian, that we have not heard of, because everyone needs a way to write signs… Adam tells me that most signers have developed their own way of writing their language from time to time…Adam developed his own system too, before starting to work with SignWriting, and I have also met other Deaf signers who have done the same - Bernard Bragg is one -<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">If Bébian had done his work during the age of the internet, we might be writing his system worldwide now - smile -<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Val ;-)<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">-----<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On Nov 6, 2013, at 7:18 AM, Honza <<a href="mailto:honza@RUCE.CZ" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><font color="purple"><span style="color: purple;">honza@RUCE.CZ</span></font></a>> wrote:<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hello Valerie,<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">recently I researched history if writing sign languages and I realized that the very first writing system developed by Roch-Ambroise Auguste Bébian (French) is in some way similar to SignWriting.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Did you know about Bebian's writing system by the time you developed SignWriting on the basis of DanceWriting and were you inspired by his system or not?<br>It is known that Stokoe created his notation system on the basis of Bebian's.. <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">It is very interesting fact.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">It interests me because I teach about writing sign languages at University, but I haven't found enought detail about this.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Thank you.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Honza<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;">________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><u1:p></u1:p></div><div><u1:p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></u1:p></div><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;">SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION<o:p></o:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p><div><u1:p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></u1:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;">Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><font color="purple"><span style="color: purple;">sutton@signwriting.org</span></font></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><u1:p></u1:p></div><div><u1:p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></u1:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; 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Valerie Sutton
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SignWriting List Archives & Home Page
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