<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">SignWriting List<div>December 12, 2013</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you, Steve, Stefan, Charles and Rachel, for your input - After reading these comments, it sounds like to me it is best not to include this feature of “morphology” in SignPuddle 3, when there may not be an equivalent in the sign language world that matches such a term and it will only confuse all of us - it actually could be a negative for the software.</div><div><br></div><div>I personally vote not to include it in SignPuddle 3 - it would be better for all of us because it is stressful to have to fit sign language grammars to match spoken language grammars when they don’t match….like trying to squeeze a square into a round hole - </div><div><br></div><div>There are so many other features in SignPuddle 3 that we need so badly…thank you for giving us those, Steve -</div><div><br></div><div>That is my vote - leave morphology out -</div><div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On Dec 12, 2013, at 3:38 AM, Stefan Wöhrmann <<a href="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@GOOGLEMAIL.COM">stefanwoehrmann@GOOGLEMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="DE" link="blue" vlink="blue" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Hi Valerie, Steve...<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Well I haven´t got the time, the knowledge, the energy to work with more options as I do right now. I am happy that “find by word” with different options ...and find by symbol is possible,<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">For my work at school there is nothing more needed – as far as I can see now...<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">All best<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Stefan<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-align: center;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">Von:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Im Auftrag von<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>Charles Butler<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Gesendet:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2013 23:53<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">An:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Betreff:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: Design for SignPuddle 3: parts-of-speech and morphology of sign language</span></font><o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="3" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Tahoma;">My only comment is that I hope all dictionary entries don't require a linguist to actually put them in or to find them. I have been excited about SignWriting because it has allowed me to write what I actually sign, not describe it in a spoken language for a third party. <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> </span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Tahoma;">That will become an impossible burden to lexicographers. Creating a search engine that can handle a bunch of parameters is fine, but who is going to go through every single sign and assign them all possible entries? The burden becomes impossible, and is no longer useful to an actual user of SignWriting as a writing system, not a linguistic tool. <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="3" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="3" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Tahoma;">Charles Butler<br><a href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a><br>240-764-5748<br>Clear writing moves business forward.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="3" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> </span></font></div></div><div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-align: center; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center"></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Rachel Channon <<a href="mailto:rchannon1@VERIZON.NET" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">rchannon1@VERIZON.NET</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, December 11, 2013 5:13 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: Design for SignPuddle 3: parts-of-speech and morphology of sign language</span></font><font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></div><div id="yiv1624340549"><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="4" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">That diagram is interesting. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yiv1624340549grame">hmm</span>. A complete list of morphological characteristics might be hard – I don’t think it is as settled as parts of speech.</span></font><font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="4" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">In my mind, morphology really translates to: some named characteristic of a group of signs or a group of morphemes. Practically speaking, in most sign languages, a sign is almost the same thing as a morpheme – that is in most sign languages most simple signs are one morpheme. (This is quite different from spoken languages where many word are made up of two or more morphemes as in<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i><span style="font-style: italic;">disinterested</span></i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>which has at least 3 morphemes: dis + interest +<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yiv1624340549grame">ed</span>.) However, this isn’t always true. For example, ASL has a negative incorporation element of the hand twisting/rotating (as in DON’T-KNOW, DON’T-WANT) that is at the morpheme level. Compounds are usually two morphemes. Furthermore, under some theories, classifiers can be considered to be bundles of many morphemes – the handshape is one or more morpheme, the location another set, the action another set, orientation…etc etc. </span></font><font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="4" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">So there are really at least four elements of this information: 1) How many morphemes are there in a sign (usually 1, sometimes 2,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yiv1624340549grame">sometimes many</span>, other choices less common). 2)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yiv1624340549grame">are</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>the morphemes simultaneous or sequential and 3) for each morpheme, what is its morpheme group, if any?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yiv1624340549grame">and</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>4) is the sign as a whole in some morphological group? </span></font><font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="4" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Examples:</span></font><font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="4" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">DON’T-WANT: 2 simultaneous morphemes: WANT + Negative incorporation</span></font><font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="4" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">WOMAN: 2 sequential morphemes: GIRL + FINE. The sign is a compound</span></font><font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="4" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">J-B (job): 2 sequential morphemes: J + B. Each element is fingerspelling; the entire sign is a fingerspelled loan sign.</span></font><font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="4" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">MOTHER: 1 morpheme</span></font><font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="4" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">BAKE-ER: 2 sequential morphemes BAKE + ER (person affix). Some people might classify this as a compound, some might call it an affixed form</span></font><font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="4" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></font><font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="4" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></font><font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="4" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Given this complexity, it might make sense to set up</span></font><font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="4" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">1)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yiv1624340549grame">a</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>simple set of choices that allow multiple choices, so that I could select for example classifier AND compound. An initial list:</span></font><font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="4" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></font><font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div style="margin-left: 36pt;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="4" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Classifier, compound, fingerspelling – one handed, fingerspelling – two handed, fingerspelled loan sign, character sign, assimilated compound, compound, negative incorporation, clitic, affix, initialized sign, phrase, inflected verb, uninflected verb, locational verb, noun-verb pair, repeating or non-repeating signs, numbers, gestural, pantomimic, iconic. Classifiers are subdivided in many ways by different linguists, so some linguists might want to add to the list of classifiers – for example, classifiers for handling objects vs. motion vs. drawing-in-the-air and so on.</span></font><font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="4" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></font><font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="4" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">2)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yiv1624340549grame">a</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>second set of choices specifying number of morphemes that defaults to 1 and allows numeric write-ins plus the choices innumerable, uncertain, and many,</span></font><font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="4" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">3)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yiv1624340549grame">a</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>fixed choice set for either simultaneous or sequential,</span></font><font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><span class="yiv1624340549grame"><font size="4" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">and</span></font></span><font size="4" color="#1f497d"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>4) a free form area for additional information.</span></font><font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="4" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I hope that I haven’t forgotten something utterly obvious.</span></font><font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="4" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Rachel</span></font><font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="4" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></font><font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="4" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></font><font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="4" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></font><font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div id="yiv1624340549yqt62865"><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><b><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>Stephen E Slevinski Jr<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, December 11, 2013 11:33 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Design for SignPuddle 3: parts-of-speech and morphology of sign language</span></font><font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hi SignWriting List,<br><br>This has been a great year, but I'm woeful behind on several project. I appreciate all of the positive work people have been able to do with SignPuddle. The long awaited work on SignPuddle 3 continues. Next year will be a break out year for written sign language across the globe.<br><br><a href="https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Incubator:Test_wikis_of_sign_languages" target="_blank" shape="rect" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Incubator:Test_wikis_of_sign_languages</a><br><br>I'm finalizing the database for SignPuddle 3. I'm very impressed with MySQL Workbench and the diagramming tool in particular. (image below)<br><br>Database design<br>--------------<br>For individual entries, I have designed the parts-of-speech solution, but not the morphology solution yet.<br><br>For parts-of-speech, there is a small list of values for the most common choices. noun, verb, adjective, adverb, sentence, other. This list can be translated into other languages.<br><br>Additionally, each entry has a separate parts-of-speech text field, which can be used for a more accurate description or a value outside of the common list.<br><br>I was considering a similar strategy for morphology. First, a new table with a static list of the most common and universal choices. Second, a freeform text field for each entry for alternate descriptions and complex analysis.<br><br>Researching morphology, it appears there are several kinds of analysis, each with its own classifications and descriptions. Is a single list too simplistic to be helpful? I'd appreciate any discussion of the topic.<br><br>Morphology list: monosyllable, compound, ... ?<br><br>Thanks,<br>-Steve<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>PS - Here is part of the working diagram for the database. I haven't added anything for morphology yet.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><img border="0" width="845" height="618" id="yiv1624340549Picture_x005f_x0020_1" alt="cid:image001.png@01CEF683.43134C90" apple-inline="yes" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CEF737.179A1940"><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION<font><span style=""><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; background-color: white;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font><span style=""><a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" target="_blank" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" style="color: blue; 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