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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'>“The biggest change will be a status
for each entry.<br>
* provisional<br>
* approved<br>
* nonstandard<br>
* rejected</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi Steve <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'>– I am afraid that this will cause
problems – who am I to judge things like these categories ...no –
all I take care of as much as possible is to make sure that most entries should
be written correctly .. I do not stop to mention at any workshop or meeting
that it is not the question of signing or signlanguage what I am interested in –
as a SignWriting scribe – I am interested to write, whatever I see as a
given signing – performance. That is the reason that it is so wonderfull
to add several dialects or variations of a given sign/term ... Your new
categories should be entered in private puddles – people may hire a staff
or a group of a scientific comunity may want to think about this ... <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'>Just my idea <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'>Stefan <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'>“The biggest change will be a status
for each entry.<br>
* provisional<br>
* approved<br>
* nonstandard<br>
* rejected</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages
[mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Im
Auftrag von </span></b>Stephen E Slevinski Jr<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Donnerstag, 12. Dezember
2013 17:52<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b>
SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: AW: Design for
SignPuddle 3: parts-of-speech and morphology of sign language</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 12/12/13, 5:38 AM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Well I haven´t got the time, the knowledge, the
energy to work with more options as I do right now. I am happy that “find
by word” with different options ...and find by symbol is possible, <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>For my work at school there is nothing more
needed – as far as I can see now... <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
Hi Stefan,<br>
<br>
No worries. I'll be fixing up the current usage and adding some new
functionality. Basic usage will stay the same and not require additional
steps or knowledge.<br>
<br>
The biggest change will be a status for each entry.<br>
* provisional<br>
* approved<br>
* nonstandard<br>
* rejected<br>
<br>
New entries are created as provisional. Editors can later mark the
entries as approved, nonstandard, or rejected.<br>
<br>
This is needed to clean up the search results and have a measure of a
dictionary's contents.<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 12/12/13, 9:57 AM, Valerie Sutton wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>After reading these comments, it sounds like to me it
is best not to include this feature of “morphology” in SignPuddle
3, when there may not be an equivalent in the sign language world that matches
such a term and it will only confuse all of us - it actually could be a
negative for the software.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I agree that there probably isn't a universal
morphology list. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>There are so many other features in SignPuddle 3 that
we need so badly…thank you for giving us those, Steve -<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
Hi Val, I understand there is a lot of pain. I'm trying to focus on what
needs done sooner rather than later. Thanks for your patience.<br>
<br>
The initial database design is working but needs to be cleaned up. The
design choices have far reaching implications and require serious
consideration. <br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 12/11/13, 4:53 PM, Charles Butler wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>My only comment
is that I hope all dictionary entries don't require a linguist to actually put
them in or to find them. I have been excited about SignWriting because it has
allowed me to write what I actually sign, not describe it in a spoken language
for a third party. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
Hi Charles,<br>
<br>
The dictionary is to help support writers of all kinds. The additional
information is not required, but an optional description.<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>That will become an impossible burden to
lexicographers. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Let's not think of it as a burden, but as a
possibility. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>The burden becomes impossible, and is no longer
useful to an actual user of SignWriting as a writing system, not a linguistic
tool. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Yes, SignWriting is a writing system and will stay
that way. The linguistic additions are outside of the SignWriting script
and not an integral part.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
-Steve<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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