<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">SignWriting List<div>December 12, 2013</div><div><br></div><div>Dear SignWriting List Members -</div><div>When I started watching President Obama give his speech at Nelson Madela’s memorial service on TV, I was so taken aback by the interpreter that I had to stop looking and just listen to President Obama’s words, rather that see the visual display that did not look like a sign language to me, but some “made-up invented gestures" - there were no facial expressions that made it “feel” like a natural sign language, and I remember thinking to myself “ that is the weirdest sign language I have ever seen - if we wrote it, it would be without facial expressions and really, the movements do not look like a natural sign language” and sure enough, it was not a sign language - that is a strange story and a concern - why was the Deaf Community not consulted when they hired their interpreters? Anyway, ironically, SignWriting could write the movements - language or not! I am glad someone spoke up and exposed him...<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';">"Mark Mandel" <<a href="mailto:thnidu@GMAIL.COM">thnidu@GMAIL.COM</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';"><b>Fwd: Fake sign-language interpreter at Mandela funeral</b><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';">December 12, 2013 at 5:21:47 PM PST<br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';"><a href="mailto:SLLING-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SLLING-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';">"linguists interested in signed languages" <<a href="mailto:SLLING-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SLLING-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>><br></span></div><br><div><div dir="ltr">From Language Log:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div><br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"> <a href="http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=8960" target="_blank">Fake sign-language interpreter at Mandela funeral</a><br>
<br> Kim Sengupta, "<a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/nelson-mandela-memorial-bogus-interpreter-made-mockery-of-barack-obamas-tribute-8997486.html" target="_blank">Nelson Mandela memorial: ‘Bogus’ interpreter made mockery of Barack Obama’s tribute</a>", The Telegraph 12/11/2013:<br>
<br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"> The key address in the memorial service for Nelson Mandela was given by Barack Obama, whose words were brought to life for deaf spectators and TV viewers by a “sign language interpreter”, who could be seen gesturing energetically behind the sombre US President.<br>
<br> Yet the man, not only seen by the tens of thousands in Johannesburg’s FNB stadium where the memorial took place on Tuesday, but also by millions across the world on television, was a “fake”, according to Bruno Druchen, the national director of the Deaf Federation of South Africa.<br>
<br> Mr Duchen told the Associated Press “there was no meaning in what he used his hands for”. He and other language experts pointed out that the man was not signing in South African or American sign languages and could not have been signing in any other known sign language because there was no structure to his arm and hand movements. South African sign language covers all of the country’s 11 official languages.<br>
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Apparently, the fake interpreter was not a creative gate-crasher, but rather was a fraud who makes money by getting himself hired to provide sign-language interpretation — "<a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=250137906" target="_blank">Interpreter For Deaf At Mandela Event Called Fake</a>", NPR 12/11/2013:<br>
</blockquote><br>(Much more in the post.)<br><br><br></div>Mark Mandel (no final "a")<br></div>
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