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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>When I saw your qusteion, I imediately thought of two Norwegian signs wich are in many ways similar. (The NSL for waterfall is one-handed, and thus less complicated). Those two signs means 'expert' (right hand brushing atop left hand, both hands horisontal ond fingers spread) and 'maculation by shedding' (rigt hand brushing left hand, both hands vertcal/down and with fingers spread). No jigeling of fingers on those two. I have attached my attempts two write these signs. I find the Tusnisan sign much harder to write ...<br><br>Ingvild
<br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2013 10:27:02 -0800<br>From: chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM<br>Subject: Re: One sign difficult writing<br>To: SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br><br><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><div><span>There are a lot of signs in the video. It is not just one sign. I don't speak Arabic, and there seem to be a lot of signs with a fluttering flat open hand. <br></span></div><div> </div><div>Charles Butler<br>chazzer3332000@yahoo.com<br>240-764-5748<br>Clear writing moves business forward.</div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Valerie Sutton <signwriting@MAC.COM><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, December 29, 2013 10:42 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: One sign difficult writing<br> </font> </div> <div class="ecxy_msg_container"><br><div id="ecxyiv9823158331"><div>SignWriting List<div>December 29, 2013</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Hello Charles, Stefan and Dali -</div><div>Thank you for these discussions. Although I have not seen the video, if it were my choice, I would not write the down-diagonal hand position with a diagonal line across the hand to show the diagonal position dipping partially down. I would assume the sign will be read without the added detail of the down-diagonal hand position, and it is too much detail to write down-diagonal hand positions for everyday use… the simpler the better…</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>And as you can see, I chose to write the left hand from the Front View and not the Top View…I think it is easier to read that way as well - </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>But there are always
other ways to write the same sign, so if you have other ways to write it, feel free to post it -</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I need to look at the video again - for some reason, on the video, I saw one sign after the other, but not the one we are trying to write - I suspect that must have been a computer glitch here, since you all saw the video easily -</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>For example, Stefan mentions that it starts out as a Flat Hand and not a Spread Five Hand - so that I did not realize -</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>So Dali, with our three-way conversation here, I think you can read the different ideas from the three of us, and you can choose to write it as you wish -</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Thank you for sharing with us!</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div class="ecxyiv9823158331yqt2212379637" id="ecxyiv9823158331yqt50830"><div>--------</div><div><br clear="none"><div><div>On Dec 29, 2013, at 6:34 AM, Charles Butler <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM">chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br class="ecxyiv9823158331Apple-interchange-newline" clear="none"><blockquote><div><div style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:tahoma, 'new york', times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><div><span>I looked at the left hand again and it starts out pointing diagonally down and to the right as a flat hand, I can easily do across and to the right on a diagonal but I'm not sure how to show the diagonal forward and down. Do we need a line through it as well?</span></div><div style="font-size:16px;font-family:tahoma, 'new york', times, serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div></div><div> </div><div>Charles Butler<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a><br clear="none">240-764-5748<br clear="none">Clear writing moves business forward.</div><div><br clear="none"></div> <div style="font-family:tahoma, 'new york', times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Dali balti <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:livingtabernacle@YAHOO.FR">livingtabernacle@YAHOO.FR</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, December 28, 2013 9:29 PM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> One sign difficult writing<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="ecxyiv9823158331y_msg_container"><br clear="none"><div id="ecxyiv9823158331"><div><div style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><div>Hello SW list!</div><div>I was trying to write down one sign which means waterfalls!</div><div>I was thinking of many ways to write it down, it is so complicated that I do not know how to write it!</div><div>Reading my signwriting and the picture, you might guess the meaning, any suggstions please??!!!</div><div>if it is still not
clear, here is the video on youtube, you find the sign on minute 2:50</div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIiyIl4yNtI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIiyIl4yNtI</a><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">Blessings!</div><div style="font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-size:16px;">Dali :D</div><div style="font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br clear="none"></div></div></div>
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