<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">The one attached here is the one I'm talking about. I keep on having the same one with two right hands. Am I confused? <br><br>I'm still getting the same OLD posting. <br><div> </div><div>Charles Butler<br>chazzer3332000@yahoo.com<br>240-764-5748<br>Clear writing moves business forward.</div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: tahoma, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Ingvild Roald <iroald@HOTMAIL.COM><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, December 30, 2013 5:20 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:
bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: One sign difficult writing<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv9447963798"><div><div>Are we discussing the same writing? In my first posting I had written the sign whith two right hands as Val pointed out. I then poste da new versjon whith a left and a right hand. Your comments have been after my last posting<br clear="none">Sendt fra mi</div><div>Den 30. des. 2013 kl. 15:25 skrev "Charles Butler" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM" target="_blank" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM">chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM</a>>:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><div><span>Again, Ingvild, unless I twist my entire body so that the arm is also pointing left, I cannot read your sign as anything other than two right hands.<br
clear="none"></span></div><div> </div><div>Charles Butler<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a><br clear="none">240-764-5748<br clear="none">Clear writing moves business forward.</div><div><br clear="none"></div> <div style="font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Charles Butler <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM" target="_blank" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM">chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank"
href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, December 30, 2013 9:12 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: One sign difficult writing<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv9447963798y_msg_container"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv9447963798"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><div><span>I have never understood anything but the Parkhurst rule. I follow the thumb side pointing inward when the hand is turned forward and down. I look at a photograph, if I can't lay my hands down on the photo and show the thumb on the correct side, there is a serious problem. <br clear="none"></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:tahoma, new york, times,
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#yiv9447963798 </style><div><div dir="ltr">On my left hand, the fingers certainly do point to the left when the hand is curved and the palm is down. I understand the sign to show the water flowing over a rock or a precipie of some sort. The water then is represented by the right hand and the rock or whatever by the left hand. If my understanding of the Tunisian sign is wrong, I appologize<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Ingvild
<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div><hr id="yiv9447963798stopSpelling">Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 04:23:08 -0800<br clear="none">From: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM" target="_blank" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM">chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM</a><br clear="none">Subject: Re: One sign difficult writing<br clear="none">To: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv9447963798yqt4895240771" id="yiv9447963798yqt39400"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><div><span>I can't read the first sign in your sentence as the left-hand fingers are pointed to the left and my hand just doesn't twist that way. Is there some reason the curl of the fingers is draped over the
left way when the right hand is going over the top? </span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:tahoma, 'new york', times, serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:tahoma, 'new york', times, serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>This makes no sense. </span></div><div></div><div> </div><div>Charles Butler<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a><br clear="none">240-764-5748<br clear="none">Clear writing moves business forward.</div><div><br clear="none"></div> <div style="font-family:tahoma, 'new york', times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1">
<font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Valerie Sutton <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:signwriting@MAC.COM" target="_blank" href="mailto:signwriting@MAC.COM">signwriting@MAC.COM</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" target="_blank" href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, December 29, 2013 3:25 PM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: One
sign difficult writing<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv9447963798ecxy_msg_container"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv9447963798ecxyiv2140259916"><div>SignWriting List<div>December 29, 2013</div><div><br clear="none"><div><div>On Dec 29, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Ingvild Roald <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:iroald@HOTMAIL.COM" target="_blank" href="mailto:iroald@HOTMAIL.COM">iroald@HOTMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br class="yiv9447963798ecxyiv2140259916Apple-interchange-newline" clear="none"><blockquote><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;">When I saw your qusteion, I imediately thought of two Norwegian signs wich are in many ways similar. (The NSL for waterfall is one-handed, and thus less complicated). Those two signs means 'expert'
(right hand brushing atop left hand, both hands horisontal ond fingers spread) and 'maculation by shedding' (rigt hand brushing left hand, both hands vertcal/down and with fingers spread). No jigeling of fingers on those two. I have attached my attempts two write these signs. I find the Tusnisan sign much harder to write ...</span><br style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;" clear="none"><br style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;" clear="none"><span
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