<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">SignWriting List<div>February 25, 2014</div><div><br></div><div>How kind of you, André - This may be more time consuming than you think, but if you have time and want to give it a try, that would be great. Maybe do the beginning of the Maltese sentence and then see how it looks - we can look at it to tell you if it works for us - Once you document how to do this, then maybe it will become easier for others to try animation too..</div><div><br></div><div>Stefan Woehrmann’s animation of the German Sign Language sentence at the beginning of his web site works well for signers even if we do not know DGS - it looks like someone is signing…and since Stefan is here on the List with us, maybe he can give us some feedback …</div><div><br></div><div>For those on the SignWriting List who may not realize…You can see Stefan’s animated sentences here:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.gebaerdenschrift.de">http://www.gebaerdenschrift.de</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.movementwriting.org/animation/sgn-DE/">http://www.movementwriting.org/animation/sgn-DE/</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.movementwriting.org/animation/sgn-DE/animatDE01.html">http://www.movementwriting.org/animation/sgn-DE/animatDE01.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks so much Andre!</div><div><br></div><div>Val ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>--------</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Feb 25, 2014, at 8:38 PM, André L <<a href="mailto:andre-andre@hotmail.ca">andre-andre@hotmail.ca</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div dir="ltr">Hello,<br>I could try to animate the malta long version. I suggest a full animation, not a succession of static signs. It is more impressive and intuitive for an outsider. An experienced sign reader would find is slow and may prefer to see traditional static signs.<br> <br>Which do you prefer? natural or traditional?<br> <br>Natural animation:<br>It would take at least 34 illustrations. Maybe up to 40 because of pauses between signs.<br>However, I will need someone to review the animation steps to ensure they are accurate.<br>If natural animations are chosen, we need a decision about the eyes and the mouth. With the current version they will be constant within a sign but appear and disappear from one sign to the next! I suggest to revert to default opened eyes and smile when not defined by the sign. With such choice we get an animated face. This would take me several hours and several démos to correct. There may not be a general consensus on the best implementation.<br><br> Traditional: It would take 1 illustration per sign, so between 10 and 15 illustrations because of pauses between signs. This would take me 1h00. So with little effort from me, people could get an idea.<br> <br>I do not have the skills to translate in correct LSQ.<br> <br>André Lemyre<br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 21:40:00 +0100<br>From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:signwriting.maria@GMAIL.COM">signwriting.maria@GMAIL.COM</a><br>Subject: Re: Sutton Movement Writing is 40 years old!<br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br><br><div dir="ltr"><div>thought i'd take a 20min break to do this for you..</div><div>see attachment..</div><div>if you need the gloss it's in the malta literature puddle, last entry inputted..</div><div>..maria</div></div><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On 25 February 2014 20:55, Valerie Sutton<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:signwriting@mac.com" target="_blank">signwriting@mac.com</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;"><div>SignWriting List<div>February 25, 2014</div><div><br></div><div>Dear SignWriting List -</div><div>I need your help. I would like to create a really cool banner and web page, showing the celebration of our 40 Years of Writing Sign Languages … written in different sign languages…Here is my try at writing it in ASL - Can the skilled ASL signers on the List help write it better? I am happy to have you change it -</div><div><br></div><div>And maybe we could also write it in DGS, NTS and maybe LSQ? and any other sign language that would like to participate - all of them would grace our web sites -</div><div><br></div><div>And if we could animate one of them, I could put that as the Special Feature on the front page of the SignWriting Site - any sign language animated would be great!</div><div><br></div><div>Here is my first try at it:</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><img width="287" height="663" apple-inline="yes" id="E790ABDA-FF22-40C7-8473-FB45A82F72EA" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:7DF33D73-9198-4536-964E-B1AFC8F045E4"></div></div><div class="ecxHOEnZb"><div class="h5">________________________________________________<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION</div><div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" target="_blank">sutton@signwriting.org</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">Post Messages to the SignWriting List:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu" target="_blank">sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">SignWriting List Archives & Home Page<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist" target="_blank">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1" target="_blank">http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>________________________________________________<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION</div><div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org">sutton@signwriting.org</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">Post Messages to the SignWriting List:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu">sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">SignWriting List Archives & Home Page<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1">http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1</a><br></div></div></div>________________________________________________<p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"></p><div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION</div><div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org">sutton@signwriting.org</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">Post Messages to the SignWriting List:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu">sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">SignWriting List Archives & Home Page<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1">http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1</a></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>________________________________________________
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