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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Hello Stephan and Valerie,<BR>I started working on the animation. It is so hard to resist an interesting project. It is an interesting sample of hand, wrist and finger movements. Hands move forward, down and in curves. We have brushing and contact. There are facial expressions and numbers. <br> <BR>Valerie, which color do you prefer black or the orange of your sample?<BR> <BR>Thank you Stephan for your sample. I will use it as a basis.<BR> <BR>Stay in touch, it should be interesting! If a Canadian can animate a malta sign language using Sutton SignWriting system, it shows the universality of the system.<BR> <BR>André Lemyre<BR><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 07:27:32 +0100<br>From: stefanwoehrmann@GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE<br>Subject: AW: Sutton Movement Writing is 40 years old!<br>To: SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br><br>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">Hi Andre, </span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color: navy; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">Valerie is right – smile -
</span></font><span lang="EN-GB">- “This may be more time consuming than you
think,”...ha</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 12pt;">Think positive, think steps, think future ...and Tini
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 12pt;">Nevertheless – I am looking forward to see a second
animation that can be compared with these animations I prepare years ago for
our television broadcast.... </span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 12pt;">Have fun! </span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;">Von:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt;"> SignWriting
List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Im Auftrag von </span></b>Valerie Sutton<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Gesendet:</span></b> Mittwoch, 26. Februar
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">How kind of you, André - This may be more time consuming than you
think, but if you have time and want to give it a try, that would be great.
Maybe do the beginning of the Maltese sentence and then see how it looks - we
can look at it to tell you if it works for us - Once you document how to do
this, then maybe it will become easier for others to try animation too..</span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Stefan Woehrmann’s animation of the German Sign Language sentence at
the beginning of his web site works well for signers even if we do not know DGS
- it looks like someone is signing…and since Stefan is here on the List with
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">For those on the SignWriting List who may not realize…You can see
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Thanks so much Andre!</span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On Feb 25, 2014, at 8:38 PM, André L <<a href="mailto:andre-andre@hotmail.ca">andre-andre@hotmail.ca</a>> wrote:</span></font></p>
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I could try to animate the malta long version. I suggest a full
animation, not a succession of static signs. It is more impressive and
intuitive for an outsider. An experienced sign reader would find is slow
and may prefer to see traditional static signs.<br>
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Which do you prefer? natural or traditional?<br>
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Natural animation:<br>
It would take at least 34 illustrations. Maybe up to 40 because of pauses
between signs.<br>
However, I will need someone to review the animation steps to ensure they
are accurate.<br>
If natural animations are chosen, we need a decision about the eyes and
the mouth. With the current version they will be constant within a sign
but appear and disappear from one sign to the next! I suggest to revert
to default opened eyes and smile when not defined by the sign. With such
choice we get an animated face. This would take me several hours and
several démos to correct. There may not be a general consensus on the best implementation.<br>
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Traditional: It would take 1 illustration per sign, so between 10
and 15 illustrations because of pauses between signs. This would take me
1h00. So with little effort from me, people could get an idea.<br>
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I do not have the skills to translate in correct LSQ.<br>
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André Lemyre</span></font></p>
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From:<span class="ecxapple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:signwriting.maria@GMAIL.COM">signwriting.maria@GMAIL.COM</a><br>
Subject: Re: Sutton Movement Writing is 40 years old!<br>
To:<span class="ecxapple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a></span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="3"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt;">if you need the gloss it's in the malta literature puddle,
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="3"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt;">On 25 February 2014 20:55, Valerie Sutton<span class="ecxapple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:signwriting@mac.com" target="_blank">signwriting@mac.com</a>><span class="ecxapple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:</span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="3"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt;">I need your help. I would like to create a really cool
banner and web page, showing the celebration of our 40 Years of Writing Sign
Languages … written in different sign languages…Here is my try at writing it in
ASL - Can the skilled ASL signers on the List help write it better? I am happy
to have you change it -</span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="3"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt;">And maybe we could also write it in DGS, NTS and maybe
LSQ? and any other sign language that would like to participate - all of them
would grace our web sites -</span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="3"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt;">And if we could animate one of them, I could put that as
the Special Feature on the front page of the SignWriting Site - any sign
language animated would be great!</span></font></p>
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