<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">IStephan, <br><br> understand your choice for writing a spoken language, I chose to write as I would sign. i would not use a quote but the ASL equivalent in body shifting and eye lift. English has punctuation, that's what the spoken language does with a narrative to distinguish speakers. That is not how ASL shows dialogue. It does it with body shifts, eye gazes, and other ways of punctuating that are not mimicking a spoken language but separation by signs. The closest I do is a pause before a body shift, but then the shifted person talks. If one is to show a user of ASL how to write English, we need to show that a "quote" is the equivalent to a body shift, not a punctuation mark. <br><div><span><br></span></div><div> </div><div>Charles Butler<br>chazzer3332000@yahoo.com<br>240-764-5748<br>Clear writing moves business
forward.</div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: tahoma, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Stefan Woehrmann <stefanwoehrmann@GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, March 8, 2014 2:24 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> AW: How do you write down SW symbolsŠ<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br>
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<div class="yiv1306212004MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="
font-size:10.0pt;">Hi Val, Charles, Andrè, ... </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv1306212004MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;" lang="EN-GB">Are you asking how to write the punctuation like quote
symbols? </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv1306212004MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;" lang="EN-GB">On case you are interested to write not signlanguage
but "signed German" or any other "signed spoken language
document" as we need them for deaf students to improve their spoken
language document I would do it this way. </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv1306212004MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;" lang="EN-GB">I simply added a sign for "quotes" to the dictionary.
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<div class="yiv1306212004MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;" lang="EN-GB">All best </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv1306212004MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;" lang="EN-GB">Stefan </span></font></div>
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font-size:10.0pt;">-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<br>
Von: SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages
[mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] Im Auftrag von André Thibeault<br>
Gesendet: Samstag, 8. März 2014 01:57<br>
An: SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br>
Betreff: How do you write down SW symbolsŠ</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv1306212004MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="
font-size:10.0pt;">Hi Val and everyone,</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv1306212004MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="
font-size:10.0pt;">Suppose I am writing a story. Here is an example of a dialogue:</span></font></div>
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font-size:10.0pt;"> </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv1306212004MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="
font-size:10.0pt;">I said: ³I like your clothes.²</span></font></div>
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font-size:10.0pt;"> </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv1306212004MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="
font-size:10.0pt;">³Thank you,² responded Val.</span></font></div>
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font-size:10.0pt;"> </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv1306212004MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="
font-size:10.0pt;">- ³Where did you buy them?²</span></font></div>
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font-size:10.0pt;"> </span></font></div>
<div class="yiv1306212004MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="
font-size:10.0pt;">- ³I did not buy them: my mother makes my clothes.²</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv1306212004MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="
font-size:10.0pt;">How do you write down SW symbols for Œ ³ ¹,Œ ² ¹ and Œ-Œ in this text</span></font></div>
<div class="yiv1306212004MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="
font-size:10.0pt;">above ? </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv1306212004MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="
font-size:10.0pt;">In addition, how do you write down SW symbols for Œ«¹ and Œ»¹?</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv1306212004MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="
font-size:10.0pt;">Best regards,</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv1306212004MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="
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