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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Hello Charles,<BR>I am interested in seeing this presentation.<BR>I was working on this subject all night yesterday.<BR> <BR>I found several pdf, some from 2004, some from 2010, their content varied. Some contained more details than others.<BR> <BR>Your list tends to be quite explicit.<BR> <BR>This this would be a plus for avatars and automated animations.<BR> <BR>Assuming that no sign spelling is present. How much time would this involve for 500 signs? (weeks, months?)<BR> <BR>Is it an easy job? most signs are in the neutral space, few have shoulders, face is explicit... I assume that most informations are the same...<BR> <BR>André Lemyre<br> <BR><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 16:20:13 -0700<br>From: chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM<br>Subject: Re: SignPuddle how to print a word-list of the SignPuddle dictionary<br>To: SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br><br><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: tahoma, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Good question on Sign-Symbol-Sequence. I have been adding an SSS to all the Brazilian signs systematically. It's a challenge. <br><br>Hand shape<br>Right hand, orientation, upright, counter-clockwise 8 rotations, 6 orientations<br>Left hand, orientation, upright, clockwise 8 rotations, 6 orientations<br>Contact face, 8 positions, clockwise<br>Contact neck, <br>Contact shoulders, 3 positions<br>(lots more positions.... I have tried to follow Valerie's lead on this). <br>Just with that much you can order MOST signs. <br>Movements. <br>Speed<br>Facial Expression<br><br>I have a presentation that Valerie can link here. <br><br><div> </div><div>Charles Butler<br>chazzer3332000@yahoo.com<br>240-764-5748<br>Clear writing moves business forward.</div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: tahoma, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> André L <andre-andre@HOTMAIL.CA><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, April 4, 2014 7:05 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: SignPuddle how to print a word-list of the SignPuddle dictionary<br> </font> </div> <div class="ecxy_msg_container"><br><div id="ecxyiv2001771429"><style><!--
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--></style><div><div dir="ltr">Hello Stephen,<br clear="none">what would happen if the sign has no explicit sign spelling sequence?<br clear="none"> <br clear="none">Thanks.<br clear="none"> <br clear="none">André Lemyre<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"><div><hr id="ecxyiv2001771429stopSpelling">Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 09:53:23 -0500<br clear="none">From: slevin@SIGNPUDDLE.NET<br clear="none">Subject: Re: SignPuddle how to print a word-list of the SignPuddle dictionary<br clear="none">To: SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
<div class="ecxyiv2001771429ecxmoz-cite-prefix">On 4/4/14, 9:18 AM, Charles Butler
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<div>I am wondering if it is possible to print a word list the
same way using signs, not gloss, so that one pulls out unique
sign lists using a starting hand shape. </div>
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No. I've thought about this, but haven't implemented it yet. It
should be an easy addition to the query language and very valuable.
I will probably add it to the next edition of
draft-slevinski-signwriting-text which I need to update for next
month. It should only take a few hours to add to the query language
to regular expression convertor.<br clear="none">
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The syntax would probably be QAS10000 for all signs that have a sign
spelling sequence that starts with the index symbol <img alt="" src="cid:1.2678003380@web163403.mail.gq1.yahoo.com">.<br clear="none">
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Alternately, the query QAS100uu would find all of the signs that
start with the same symbol without regards to fill or rotation.<br clear="none">
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This leads to an additional complication of QAS10000S20500 versus
QS20500AS10000, where S20500 is the single contact. <img alt="" src="cid:2.2678003380@web163403.mail.gq1.yahoo.com"><br clear="none">
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The first query (QAS10000S20500) would find the signs that have a
sign spelling sequence that starts with the index followed by the
contact. The second query would find the signs that have a sign
spelling sequence that starts with the index and includes a contact
somewhere in the sign. Subtle but powerful distinction.<br clear="none">
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Regards,<br clear="none">
-Steve
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