<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">You are right that it is more of a wrist rotation than an arm rotation. In fact, you have everything very detailed, and correctly so. ;-)<div><br></div><div>Adam</div><div><br><div><div>On May 14, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Stefan Wöhrmann <<a href="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@GOOGLEMAIL.COM">stefanwoehrmann@GOOGLEMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="DE" link="blue" vlink="blue" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Hi Eduardo, Valerie, Charles...<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">well I looked very carefully at the video .... this is my suggestion how to write this sign...<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><img apple-inline="yes" id="82B53C80-FE4B-4381-8D3E-A196F6737B8B" height="178" width="38" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:34C88D78-D088-449B-AC9B-2EDB233FCF2B@gateway.pace.com"><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Or like this<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><img apple-inline="yes" id="0CB3553C-7393-44E4-BAEC-8FC27986D6BE" height="173" width="37" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:7528898F-DF7A-49F1-9B8F-01244669E2E0@gateway.pace.com"><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I love to discuss sign spellings.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">All best<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Stefan<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-align: center;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">Von:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [<a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Im Auftrag von<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>Valerie Sutton<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Gesendet:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mittwoch, 14. Mai 2014 22:08<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">An:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Betreff:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: Help with a sign</span></font><o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">SignWriting List<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">May 14, 2014<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hello Eduardo!<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I am glad you are pleased, and you wrote the sign very well - that is a hard sign -<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I have one last suggestion…the Opening Dot - the one that shows that the fingers are opening, what we call a Flick Finger Movement…<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The dot could be closer…either to the tip of the arrowhead, since the opening motion happens at the end of the movement, or, the dot could be placed over the five fingers over the last hand symbol…because it is those fingers that opened…<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">right now it looks like the dot is floating in space and not sure where it belongs - smile!<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><img apple-inline="yes" id="9C88CFD0-6E8F-4806-84EF-248DF3D2396A" height="182" width="66" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:B1E64317-5598-4173-91B5-77DAD13F7236@gateway.pace.com"><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">———<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br>On May 14, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Eduardo Trápani <<a href="mailto:etrapani@GMAIL.COM" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">etrapani@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">And I like your writing of the sign…<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></blockquote><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br>You made my signwriting day :)<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br>For me, when I see the sign, the right hand, at the end position,<br>flops over and the thumb finishes on the right side, like this:<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br>Yes, you're right. Fixed in the signpuddle. Thanks Val!!<br><br>________________________________________________<br><br><br>SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION<br><br>Valerie Sutton<br>SignWriting List moderator<br><a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">sutton@signwriting.org</a><br><br>Post Messages to the SignWriting List:<br><a href="mailto:sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a><br><br>SignWriting List Archives & Home Page<br><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist</a><br><br>Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages<br><a href="http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></div></div></div>________________________________________________<div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p>SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION</p><p>Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">sutton@signwriting.org</a></p><p>Post Messages to the SignWriting List:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a></p><p>SignWriting List Archives & Home Page<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist</a></p><p>Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>________________________________________________</p><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p>SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION</p><p>Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">sutton@signwriting.org</a></p><p>Post Messages to the SignWriting List:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a></p><p>SignWriting List Archives & Home Page<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist</a></p><p>Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1</a></p></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>________________________________________________
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