<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">The only thing I can think of that has anything with relations to location on the hands is <img atl="06-01-007-01-05-01" src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/symbol.php?sss=06-01-007-01-05-01&color=000000"> for the fingers and <img atl="06-01-007-01-06-01" src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/symbol.php?sss=06-01-007-01-06-01&color=000000"> for the palm of the hand. They are found under SymbolGroup 29, which is not used in daily writing but for more detailed research. Is that what you were referring to?<div><br></div><div>Adam</div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 8, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Jonathan Duncan <<a href="mailto:duncanjonathan@YAHOO.CA">duncanjonathan@YAHOO.CA</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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Hi Adam, <br>
I am working with Charles on finding a better way for sorting.
So thatīs a bit what Charles was explaining to you some of the
issues. I know he also asked last week about locations on the
hands. I know Val was off for a well deserved break. But we are
still wondering about that too I believe itīs the same as number 1
and 2 in Syllable 4.<br>
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I asked about the Syllable 4 below because am adding SignSpelling
Sequence suggestion function to SignWriter Studio. There will be
two suggestion types, one that follows Valīs
sw0534-SignSpellingGuidelines-2008.pdf and another for what we are
developping with Charles.<br>
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So far I have been able to automate a great part of setting the
sequence for a sign from the symbols in a sign (no special location)
for SignSpellingGuidelines-2008. I have done Sylables 1-3 with a
great measure of success so long as there arenīt more than four
hands and a couple movement symbols. For composite signs like "Good
morning" in Honduran Sign Language itīs not great at all, but
otherwise I think that it is a time saver.<br>
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But I got to Syllable 4: Detailed Sorting and I need some examples
of signs sorted that have these features. I am thinking that many
of these would also be the special location symbol that arenīt used
in everyday writing.<br>
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Thank you for the two examples you found. That was helpful.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Jonathan<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/8/2014 9:58 AM, Adam Frost wrote:<br>
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Im not sure what you mean by 1-3. Do you mean the location on the
hand? And what do you mean by Top-Down for the Face?
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<div>As for the neck, I found this sign with SignSpelling
Sequence.</div>
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<div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=9098">http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=9098</a></div>
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<div>For the shoulder, I found this sign with SignSpelling
Sequence.</div>
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<div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=7005">http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=7005</a></div>
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<div>Adam</div>
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<div>On Sep 8, 2014, at 5:56 AM, Jonathan Duncan <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:duncanjonathan@YAHOO.CA">duncanjonathan@YAHOO.CA</a>>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi,<br>
Does anybody have any SignSequence examples for<br>
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Syllable 4: Detailed Sorting<br>
1. Location Dominant Hand<br>
2. Location Non-Dominant Hand<br>
4. Face (Top-Down)<br>
5. Neck<br>
6. Shoulder<br>
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Iīve looked through the sign spelling sequences for the
ASL and only found examples for<br>
3. Head<br>
7. Torso<br>
8. Hips & Legs<br>
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Thanks,</div>
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