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I finally managed to recuperate Charles' the emails from my
gmail.com account. I think they should come through now. But no
success as to why they are not coming through my yahoo.ca account.
So if nobody else if have that problem maybe it´s just my email
accounts.<br>
<br>
Thanks for your help Val and Adam!! <span class="moz-smiley-s1"><span>
:-) </span></span><br>
<br>
Jonathan<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/8/2014 5:33 PM, Adam Frost wrote:<br>
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Did you check your trash? I remember for some reason Charles’
emails (as well as a few others) were being sent there or spam. I
don’t know why it happened, but I ended up making a filter so that
the emails to the list are never placed in the spam or trash. You
could look in your all folder within gmail to see if his emails
are there anywhere.
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<div>Adam</div>
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<div>On Sep 8, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Jonathan Duncan <<a
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href="mailto:duncanjonathan@YAHOO.CA">duncanjonathan@YAHOO.CA</a>>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> No one is <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://yahoo.ca">yahoo.ca</a>
the other is <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://gmail.com">gmail.com</a><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/8/2014 5:24 PM, Adam
Frost wrote:<br>
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That is truly strange because if I am getting Charles’
messages through the list, then it probably isn’t the
list that would be the problem (you would think). And it
is strange that you have two emails acting the same way.
Are they both <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://yahoo.ca/">yahoo.ca</a>? Maybe try a
different domain?
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<div>Adam</div>
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<div>On Sep 8, 2014, at 2:19 PM, Jonathan Duncan
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:duncanjonathan@YAHOO.CA">duncanjonathan@YAHOO.CA</a>>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi Val,<br>
I am still have problems with Charles
messages on the list. For example, I never got
the email from Charles below in either of my
email accounts but got Adam´s reply to it in
both of them. I checked my spam folders and
they are not there either. <br>
<br>
Just to let you know that the bug on the list
software is still there. Though I understand
that you may not be able to do much about it. <br>
<br>
So everybody please always reply to Charles so
that I can know what he wrote <span
class="moz-smiley-s1"> :-) </span>. LOL Just
kidding.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Jonathan<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/8/2014 11:52
AM, Adam Frost wrote:<br>
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So if I am reading this right, you are
comparing two signs of DEAF. One with contact
and one without. It seems that you are writing
the SignSpelling Sequence following the basic
Handshape-Location-Movement order. Ok. So that
would mean that you would have DEAF with
contact ordered as:
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<div><img moz-do-not-send="true"
alt="01-01-001-01-02-02"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/symbol.php?sss=01-01-001-01-02-02&color=000000"><img
moz-do-not-send="true"
alt="04-01-002-01-01-07"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/symbol.php?sss=04-01-002-01-01-07&color=000000"><img
moz-do-not-send="true"
alt="02-01-001-01-01-01"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/symbol.php?sss=02-01-001-01-01-01&color=000000"><img
moz-do-not-send="true"
alt="02-03-001-01-01-04"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/symbol.php?sss=02-03-001-01-01-04&color=000000"><img
moz-do-not-send="true"
alt="04-01-002-01-01-05"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/symbol.php?sss=04-01-002-01-01-05&color=000000"><img
alt="02-01-001-01-01-01"
apple-inline="yes"
id="B63F6F2B-A8DD-42A3-82CC-05FC4E2FBD43"
apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes"
src="cid:part11.07060807.09070403@yahoo.ca"
height="11" width="10"></div>
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<div>And DEAF without as:</div>
<div><br>
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<div><img alt="01-01-001-01-02-02"
apple-inline="yes"
id="7AEA72A5-B2B0-41DD-A360-5096DA661417"
apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes"
src="cid:part12.03020202.07000804@yahoo.ca"
height="30" width="21"><img
alt="04-01-002-01-01-07"
apple-inline="yes"
id="5E4FAA9A-DCD8-4E24-82EA-8BB50C661A29"
apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes"
src="cid:part13.07060404.04080904@yahoo.ca"
height="35" width="36"><img
alt="02-03-001-01-01-04"
apple-inline="yes"
id="54C208F8-6654-462E-9BEB-6A30727D38E7"
apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes"
src="cid:part14.02090304.01060501@yahoo.ca"
height="14" width="13"><img
alt="04-01-002-01-01-05"
apple-inline="yes"
id="BED8BE8B-5509-4F86-9B67-BD401F0E848C"
apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes"
src="cid:part15.03060501.06070005@yahoo.ca"
height="35" width="36"></div>
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<div>Assuming that you are using the Symbol
Sequence that is inherit with the ISWA 2010,
then DEAF with contact would come first
before DEAF without contact because the
first contact star in DEAF with contact
comes before the arrow moment in DEAF
without contact.</div>
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<div>But I’m still not seeing what you are
referring to. What exactly are you trying to
do?</div>
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<div>Adam</div>
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<div>On Sep 8, 2014, at 8:26 AM, Charles
Butler <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM">chazzer3332000@YAHOO.COM</a>>
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<div><span>Hi Adam and Jonathan.</span></div>
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sans-serif; background-color:
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<div style="font-size: 13px;
font-family: verdana, helvetica,
sans-serif; background-color:
transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>What
Jonathan and I are running up
against is Sign-Symbol-Sequence
by Syllable, so, for example
with a sign like Deaf (with face
contact) and Deaf (without face
contact), I put the first and
second positions of the face
when there are no contacts but
the hand is near the space
BEFORE the writing where there
is actual contact on the head.
The only way to order them in a
dictionary (for me) is to have
distinct syllables and spellings
within syllables. So that
first-syllable INDEX HAND-NEAR
EAR ARC-(second syllable)-NEAR
MOUTH ARC comes before (first
syllable) HAND-EAR
ARC-CONTACT-(second
syllable)EAR-MOUTH-CONTACT. </span></div>
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font-family: verdana, helvetica,
sans-serif; background-color:
transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br>
</span></div>
<div style="font-size: 13px;
font-family: verdana, helvetica,
sans-serif; background-color:
transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>We
are trying to order positions on
the Head in relation to contacts
with the Head in syllables.
Trying to get a fixed order of
relation to one part of a
syllable to the next part. </span></div>
<div> </div>
<div>Charles Butler<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a><br>
240-764-5748<br>
Clear writing moves business
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face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span
style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Adam Frost <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM">icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:
bold;">To:</span></b> <a
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href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>
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<b><span style="font-weight:
bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Monday, September 8, 2014
9:58 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:
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Re: Examples of Syllable 4:
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<div>I’m not sure what you
mean by 1-3. Do you mean
the location on the hand?
And what do you mean by
Top-Down for the Face?
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<div>As for the neck, I
found this sign with
SignSpelling Sequence.</div>
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<div><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
shape="rect"
target="_blank"
href="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=9098">http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=9098</a></div>
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<div>For the shoulder, I
found this sign with
SignSpelling Sequence.</div>
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moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
shape="rect"
target="_blank"
href="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=7005">http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=7005</a></div>
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<div>Adam</div>
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<div>On Sep 8, 2014, at
5:56 AM, Jonathan
Duncan <<a
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<div> Hi,<br clear="none">
Does anybody have
any SignSequence
examples for<br
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Syllable 4: Detailed
Sorting<br clear="none">
1. Location Dominant
Hand<br clear="none">
2. Location Non-Dominant
Hand<br clear="none">
4. Face (Top-Down)<br
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5. Neck<br clear="none">
6. Shoulder<br
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I´ve looked through the
sign spelling sequences
for the ASL and only
found examples for<br
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3. Head<br clear="none">
7. Torso<br clear="none">
8. Hips & Legs<br
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