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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/8/2014 5:24 PM, Adam Frost wrote:<br>
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That is truly strange because if I am getting Charles’ messages
through the list, then it probably isn’t the list that would be
the problem (you would think). And it is strange that you have two
emails acting the same way. Are they both <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://yahoo.ca">yahoo.ca</a>?
Maybe try a different domain?
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<div>On Sep 8, 2014, at 2:19 PM, Jonathan Duncan <<a
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi Val,<br>
I am still have problems with Charles messages on the
list. For example, I never got the email from Charles
below in either of my email accounts but got Adam´s reply
to it in both of them. I checked my spam folders and they
are not there either. <br>
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Just to let you know that the bug on the list software is
still there. Though I understand that you may not be able
to do much about it. <br>
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So everybody please always reply to Charles so that I can
know what he wrote <span class="moz-smiley-s1"> :-) </span>.
LOL Just kidding.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Jonathan<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/8/2014 11:52 AM, Adam
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So if I am reading this right, you are comparing two
signs of DEAF. One with contact and one without. It
seems that you are writing the SignSpelling Sequence
following the basic Handshape-Location-Movement order.
Ok. So that would mean that you would have DEAF with
contact ordered as:
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<div><img moz-do-not-send="true"
alt="01-01-001-01-02-02"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/symbol.php?sss=01-01-001-01-02-02&color=000000"><img
moz-do-not-send="true" alt="04-01-002-01-01-07"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/symbol.php?sss=04-01-002-01-01-07&color=000000"><img
moz-do-not-send="true" alt="02-01-001-01-01-01"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/symbol.php?sss=02-01-001-01-01-01&color=000000"><img
moz-do-not-send="true" alt="02-03-001-01-01-04"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/symbol.php?sss=02-03-001-01-01-04&color=000000"><img
moz-do-not-send="true" alt="04-01-002-01-01-05"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/symbol.php?sss=04-01-002-01-01-05&color=000000"><img
alt="02-01-001-01-01-01" apple-inline="yes"
id="B63F6F2B-A8DD-42A3-82CC-05FC4E2FBD43"
apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes"
src="cid:part8.07070105.00050809@yahoo.ca"
height="11" width="10"></div>
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<div>And DEAF without as:</div>
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<div><img alt="01-01-001-01-02-02" apple-inline="yes"
id="7AEA72A5-B2B0-41DD-A360-5096DA661417"
apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes"
src="cid:part9.01060104.06050906@yahoo.ca"
height="30" width="21"><img alt="04-01-002-01-01-07"
apple-inline="yes"
id="5E4FAA9A-DCD8-4E24-82EA-8BB50C661A29"
apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes"
src="cid:part10.01020506.02000007@yahoo.ca"
height="35" width="36"><img alt="02-03-001-01-01-04"
apple-inline="yes"
id="54C208F8-6654-462E-9BEB-6A30727D38E7"
apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes"
src="cid:part11.06080708.01090700@yahoo.ca"
height="14" width="13"><img alt="04-01-002-01-01-05"
apple-inline="yes"
id="BED8BE8B-5509-4F86-9B67-BD401F0E848C"
apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes"
src="cid:part12.09040409.05090109@yahoo.ca"
height="35" width="36"></div>
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<div>Assuming that you are using the Symbol Sequence
that is inherit with the ISWA 2010, then DEAF with
contact would come first before DEAF without contact
because the first contact star in DEAF with contact
comes before the arrow moment in DEAF without contact.</div>
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<div>But I’m still not seeing what you are referring to.
What exactly are you trying to do?</div>
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<div>On Sep 8, 2014, at 8:26 AM, Charles Butler <<a
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<div style="font-size: 13px; font-family:
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background-color: transparent; font-style:
normal;"><span>What Jonathan and I are
running up against is Sign-Symbol-Sequence
by Syllable, so, for example with a sign
like Deaf (with face contact) and Deaf
(without face contact), I put the first
and second positions of the face when
there are no contacts but the hand is near
the space BEFORE the writing where there
is actual contact on the head. The only
way to order them in a dictionary (for me)
is to have distinct syllables and
spellings within syllables. So that
first-syllable INDEX HAND-NEAR EAR
ARC-(second syllable)-NEAR MOUTH ARC
comes before (first syllable) HAND-EAR
ARC-CONTACT-(second
syllable)EAR-MOUTH-CONTACT. </span></div>
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<div style="font-size: 13px; font-family:
verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;
background-color: transparent; font-style:
normal;"><span>We are trying to order
positions on the Head in relation to
contacts with the Head in syllables.
Trying to get a fixed order of relation to
one part of a syllable to the next part. </span></div>
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<div>Charles Butler<br>
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href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a><br>
240-764-5748<br>
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style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b>
Adam Frost <<a
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href="mailto:icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM">icemandeaf@GMAIL.COM</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Monday, September 8, 2014 9:58 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
Re: Examples of Syllable 4: Detailed
Sorting<br>
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<div>I’m not sure what you mean by
1-3. Do you mean the location on the
hand? And what do you mean by
Top-Down for the Face?
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<div>As for the neck, I found this
sign with SignSpelling Sequence.</div>
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<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow" shape="rect"
target="_blank"
href="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=9098">http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=9098</a></div>
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<div>For the shoulder, I found this
sign with SignSpelling Sequence.</div>
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rel="nofollow" shape="rect"
target="_blank"
href="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=7005">http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=7005</a></div>
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<div>On Sep 8, 2014, at 5:56 AM,
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<div> Hi,<br clear="none">
Does anybody have any
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Syllable 4: Detailed Sorting<br
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1. Location Dominant Hand<br
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2. Location Non-Dominant Hand<br
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5. Neck<br clear="none">
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I´ve looked through the sign
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7. Torso<br clear="none">
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