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It could be. Depends what Val was thinking when she wrote the
SignSpellingGuidelines-2008 I guess.<br>
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Thank you for showing me those two symbols. I had never seen them
before.<br>
<br>
Jonathan<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/8/2014 5:12 PM, Adam Frost wrote:<br>
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The only thing I can think of that has anything with relations to
location on the hands is <img moz-do-not-send="true"
atl="06-01-007-01-05-01"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/symbol.php?sss=06-01-007-01-05-01&color=000000"> for
the fingers and <img moz-do-not-send="true"
atl="06-01-007-01-06-01"
src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/symbol.php?sss=06-01-007-01-06-01&color=000000"> for
the palm of the hand. They are found under SymbolGroup 29, which
is not used in daily writing but for more detailed research. Is
that what you were referring to?
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<div>On Sep 8, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Jonathan Duncan <<a
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi Adam, <br>
I am working with Charles on finding a better way for
sorting. So thatīs a bit what Charles was explaining to
you some of the issues. I know he also asked last week
about locations on the hands. I know Val was off for a
well deserved break. But we are still wondering about
that too I believe itīs the same as number 1 and 2 in
Syllable 4.<br>
<br>
I asked about the Syllable 4 below because am adding
SignSpelling Sequence suggestion function to SignWriter
Studio. There will be two suggestion types, one that
follows Valīs sw0534-SignSpellingGuidelines-2008.pdf and
another for what we are developping with Charles.<br>
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So far I have been able to automate a great part of
setting the sequence for a sign from the symbols in a sign
(no special location) for SignSpellingGuidelines-2008. I
have done Sylables 1-3 with a great measure of success so
long as there arenīt more than four hands and a couple
movement symbols. For composite signs like "Good morning"
in Honduran Sign Language itīs not great at all, but
otherwise I think that it is a time saver.<br>
<br>
But I got to Syllable 4: Detailed Sorting and I need some
examples of signs sorted that have these features. I am
thinking that many of these would also be the special
location symbol that arenīt used in everyday writing.<br>
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Thank you for the two examples you found. That was
helpful.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Jonathan<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/8/2014 9:58 AM, Adam
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Im not sure what you mean by 1-3. Do you mean the
location on the hand? And what do you mean by Top-Down
for the Face?
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<div>As for the neck, I found this sign with
SignSpelling Sequence.</div>
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<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=9098">http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=9098</a></div>
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<div>For the shoulder, I found this sign with
SignSpelling Sequence.</div>
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<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=7005">http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=7005</a></div>
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<div>On Sep 8, 2014, at 5:56 AM, Jonathan Duncan
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi,<br>
Does anybody have any SignSequence examples
for<br>
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Syllable 4: Detailed Sorting<br>
1. Location Dominant Hand<br>
2. Location Non-Dominant Hand<br>
4. Face (Top-Down)<br>
5. Neck<br>
6. Shoulder<br>
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Iīve looked through the sign spelling sequences
for the ASL and only found examples for<br>
3. Head<br>
7. Torso<br>
8. Hips & Legs<br>
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Thanks,</div>
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