<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">SignWriting List<div class="">April 3, 2015</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">André -</div><div class="">Thank you once again for your donation of time and energy - you are amazing and we appreciate this French translation for the user interface for the new SignMaker 2015 program.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have one thought…as you know, I chose long ago to create names for our writing system that have the first letter of two words capitalized and then the two words are put together in a unit…like SignWriting, SignMaker, DanceWriting and so forth…it is my way of creating distinctive names for the writing system that people recognize…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So when translating these names, there have been differences…for example, in Spain they say “SignoEscritura” but in Mexico and Central America they say “SeñaEscritura”… that was an interesting realization to see that there were different ways to say it in Spanish depending on the region -</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And in French Switzerland they have a great web site:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">SignÉcriture</div><div class=""><a href="http://www.signecriture.org/Bienvenue.html" class="">http://www.signecriture.org/Bienvenue.html</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So here is my question…How do you feel about the idea of creating a special name in French for SignMaker? Could it be “SignCréateur”? or “SignesCréateur”?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I realize it may seem funny at first, but it might be a way to recognize that it is a special name… if not that is ok too - just a thought -</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Steve - we need to make sure the Title will fit - some of these languages will be longer than others ;-))</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Val ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">--------</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 3, 2015, at 2:40 PM, André L <<a href="mailto:andre-andre@HOTMAIL.CA" class="">andre-andre@HOTMAIL.CA</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""> <br class=""><font face="Times New Roman" class="">Hello,</font><br class=""><font face="Times New Roman" class="">here are the corrections (note that SignMaker is no longer a proper name)</font><br class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 8pt; padding: 0px; line-height: normal;"><span lang="FR" style="font-size: 11.5pt;" class=""> </span></p><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><br class=""><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><tbody class=""><tr class=""><td width="249" valign="top" style="padding: 0cm 5.4pt; border: 1pt solid windowtext; width: 186.6pt; background-color: transparent;" class=""><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 16.2pt; padding: 0px; line-height: normal;"><span lang="FR" style="font-family: Courier; font-size: 10.5pt;" class=""> signmaker</span><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI', sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font></td><td width="226" valign="top" style="border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt 0px; border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext rgb(0, 0, 0); padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 169.7pt; background-color: transparent;" class=""><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 16.2pt; padding: 0px; line-height: normal;"><span lang="FR" style="font-family: Courier; font-size: 10.5pt;" class=""> 'SignMaker',</span><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI', sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font></td><td width="163" valign="top" style="background-color: yellow; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt 0px; border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext rgb(0, 0, 0); padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 122.5pt; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 16.2pt; padding: 0px; line-height: normal;"><span lang="FR" style="font-family: Courier; font-size: 10.5pt;" class="">: 'Créateur de signes',</span><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI', sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font></td></tr><tr class=""><td width="249" valign="top" style="border-width: 0px 1pt 1pt; border-style: none solid solid; border-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) windowtext windowtext; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 186.6pt; background-color: transparent;" class=""><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 16.2pt; padding: 0px; line-height: normal;"><span lang="FR" style="font-family: Courier; font-size: 10.5pt;" class=""> sameSymbolsLocation</span><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI', sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font></td><td width="226" valign="top" style="border-width: 0px 1pt 1pt 0px; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) windowtext windowtext rgb(0, 0, 0); padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 169.7pt; background-color: transparent;" class=""><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 16.2pt; padding: 0px; line-height: normal;"><span lang="FR" style="font-family: Courier; font-size: 10.5pt;" class=""> 'Same Symbols Location',</span><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI', sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font></td><td width="163" valign="top" style="background-color: yellow; border-width: 0px 1pt 1pt 0px; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) windowtext windowtext rgb(0, 0, 0); padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 122.5pt; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 16.2pt; padding: 0px; line-height: normal;"><span lang="FR" style="font-family: Courier; font-size: 10.5pt;" class="">: 'Mêmes symboles à cette position',</span><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI', sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font></td></tr><tr class=""><td width="249" valign="top" style="border-width: 0px 1pt 1pt; border-style: none solid solid; border-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) windowtext windowtext; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 186.6pt; background-color: transparent;" class=""><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; padding: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 10.5pt;" class=""> </span><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI', sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font></td><td width="226" valign="top" style="border-width: 0px 1pt 1pt 0px; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) windowtext windowtext rgb(0, 0, 0); padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 169.7pt; background-color: transparent;" class=""><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 16.2pt; padding: 0px; line-height: normal;"><span lang="FR" style="font-family: Courier; font-size: 10.5pt;" class=""> </span><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI', sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font></td><td width="163" valign="top" style="background-color: yellow; border-width: 0px 1pt 1pt 0px; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) windowtext windowtext rgb(0, 0, 0); padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 122.5pt; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 16.2pt; padding: 0px; line-height: normal;"><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI', sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;" class="">Translation of: Same symbols at this location<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font></td></tr><tr class=""><td width="249" valign="top" style="border-width: 0px 1pt 1pt; border-style: none solid solid; border-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) windowtext windowtext; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 186.6pt; background-color: transparent;" class=""><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 16.2pt; padding: 0px; line-height: normal;"><span lang="FR" style="font-family: Courier; font-size: 10.5pt;" class=""> baseSymbolsLocation</span><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI', sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font></td><td width="226" valign="top" style="border-width: 0px 1pt 1pt 0px; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) windowtext windowtext rgb(0, 0, 0); padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 169.7pt; background-color: transparent;" class=""><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 16.2pt; padding: 0px; line-height: normal;"><span lang="FR" style="font-family: Courier; font-size: 10.5pt;" class=""> 'Base Symbols Location',</span><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI', sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font></td><td width="163" valign="top" style="background-color: yellow; border-width: 0px 1pt 1pt 0px; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) windowtext windowtext rgb(0, 0, 0); padding: 0cm 5.4pt; width: 122.5pt; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 16.2pt; padding: 0px; line-height: normal;"><span lang="FR" style="font-family: Courier; font-size: 10.5pt;" class="">: 'Même symboles de base à cette position',</span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 16.2pt; padding: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><span lang="FR" style="font-family: Courier; font-size: 10.5pt;" class=""></span> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 16.2pt; padding: 0px; line-height: normal;"><span lang="FR" style="font-family: Courier; font-size: 10.5pt;" class="">Translation of:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 16.2pt; padding: 0px; line-height: normal;"><span lang="FR" style="font-family: Courier; font-size: 10.5pt;" class="">Same base symbols at this location</span></p><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font></td></tr></tbody></table><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><br class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; padding: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><span lang="FR" style="font-size: 11.5pt;" class=""> </span></div><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><br class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 16.2pt; padding: 0px; line-height: normal;"><span lang="FR" style="font-size: 11.5pt;" class=""> </span><span lang="FR" style="font-family: Courier; font-size: 11.5pt;" class=""> blackOnWhite: 'Noir sur Blanc', should be with only one capital:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 0);" class="">'Noir sur blanc'</font></span><span lang="FR" style="font-size: 11.5pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><br class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; padding: 0px; line-height: normal;" class=""><span lang="FR" style="font-size: 11.5pt;" class=""> </span></div><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><br class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 16.2pt; padding: 0px; line-height: normal;"><span lang="FR" style="font-family: Courier; font-size: 11.5pt;" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-family: Courier; font-size: 11.5pt;" class="">whiteOnBlack: 'Blanc sur Noir',should be with only one capital:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 0);" class="">'Blanc sur noir'</font></span><span style="font-size: 11.5pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><font face="Times New Roman" class=""></font><br class="">I offer to translate your user guide in French... I would use the previous guide as a basis to keep the already defined terms for French. If you have someone else, fine, then I can focus on my other projects for the Symposium...<br class=""> <br class="">(You will need French videos also. It would be nice if someone could do it. This video should use the same technical term as the user guide).<br class=""> <br class="">André Lemyre<br class=""> <br class=""><div class=""><hr id="stopSpelling" class="">Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2015 15:08:10 -0500<br class="">From: <a href="mailto:slevin@SIGNPUDDLE.NET" class="">slevin@SIGNPUDDLE.NET</a><br class="">Subject: Re: Need spoken language translations for user interface for SignMaker 2015<br class="">To: <a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" class="">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br class=""><br class=""><div class="ecxmoz-cite-prefix"><br class="">On 4/3/15 2:40 PM, André L wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote cite="mid:COL129-W66330CA81EF0351AA7F4F381F10@phx.gbl" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><font face="Calibri,sans-serif" class="">Hello, here is the translation in French</font><br class=""></div></blockquote>Thanks André,<br class=""><br class="">I have loaded your French translation. It is available under "More >> Preferences"<br class=""><a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://signbank.org/signmaker" target="_blank">http://signbank.org/signmaker</a><br class=""> <br class=""><blockquote cite="mid:COL129-W66330CA81EF0351AA7F4F381F10@phx.gbl" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><font face="Calibri,sans-serif" class=""></font><br class=""><div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;" class=""><font face="Calibri,sans-serif" class=""> I did not understand 'Same Symbols Location' so I translated "the position of the same symbols".</font></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"></p></div></blockquote>The Same Symbols Location is short for "Find signs that have the same symbols in the specified locations."<br class=""><br class="">Same Symbols will match symbols that have the same fill and rotations as symbols in the SignBox.<br class=""><br class="">Base Symbols will match symbols that have the same base with any fill or rotation.<br class=""><br class="">The "Location" search takes the position of the symbols in the SignBox into account when finding results.<br class=""><br class="">The "Sorted" search uses the symbols in the SignSpelling Sequence to find signs that start with the same sequence.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote cite="mid:COL129-W66330CA81EF0351AA7F4F381F10@phx.gbl" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;" class=""><font face="Calibri,sans-serif" class="">Also the distinction between Clear Entry and Delete Entry is not clear for me. Though their translation should be fine.</font></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"></p></div></blockquote>"Clear Entry" means to clear the entry workspace.<br class=""><br class="">"Delete Entry" means to delete the entry from the dictionary.<br class=""><br class="">Again André, thanks for your help. I'm currently working on the last few details for the new SignMaker. I will be posting the code soon. Documentation and video instructions soon after.<br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class="">-Steve<br class="">________________________________________________<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;" class="">SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION</div><div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;" class="">Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator <a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" class="">sutton@signwriting.org</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;" class="">Post Messages to the SignWriting List: <a href="mailto:sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu" class="">sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;" class="">SignWriting List Archives & Home Page <a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist" class="">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;" class="">Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages <a href="http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1" class="">http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1</a><br class=""></div></div></div><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">________________________________________________</span><p style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""></p><div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION</div><div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" class="">sutton@signwriting.org</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Post Messages to the SignWriting List:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu" class="">sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">SignWriting List Archives & Home Page<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist" class="">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1" class="">http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1</a></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>________________________________________________
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