<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">SignWriting List<div class="">April 10, 2015</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hello Machado, Alex, André, Steve, Nancy, and everyone -</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I am not sure I can answer your question exactly as a software developer would answer, but let me tell you about the complete New Testament and some of the Old Testament written with SignPuddle Online using SignWriting, written by ASL interpreter Nancy Romero…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There are also other projects too, such as the Shores Deaf Church translations, headed by Ron Dettloff, and others, which we can discuss next, but for right now, let me focus on Nancy’s work…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The complete New Testament is now written in ASL, and this was accomplished by one amazing ASL interpreter who dedicated a complete decade of non-stop work to translate from the English New Living Translation, into ASL, and then write it in SignWriting using SignPuddle Online. Nancy Romero wrote the complete New Testament in ASL. Then Nancy created PDF documents from the SignPuddle documents and those PDF documents are located on this web site:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="http://ASLGospel.org" class="">ASLGospel.org</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I still need to post some of Nancy’s PDFs on <a href="http://ASLGospel.org" class="">ASLGospel.org</a> so you will see some are not live links yet, but they are coming…but the entire New Testament is written nonetheless…and you can read all the documents in SignPuddle Online.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Go to:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">ASL Bible Books</div><div class=""><a href="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=151" class="">http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=151</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I believe that Nancy created these documents by using Steve’s Translate feature in SignPuddle, accessing this dictionary:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">ASL Bible Dictionary</div><div class=""><a href="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=28" class="">http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=28</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So how does Steve’s SignPuddle Translate feature work? By knowing the gloss of the sign that you want, and writing the translation in a word-gloss, in the translate tool, and then creating the documents in ASL in SignWriting based on that word gloss -</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The sentences were written by adding all the signs needed in the dictionary, and then the translation was based on the glosses that represented the signs that were written in the dictionary -</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So in a way, yes, glosses were used - but it is the end result in SignWriting that matters to the reader - no one is reading the glosses -</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">and not everyone composes sentences that way - but I believe that glosses were used in this case...</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Val ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-----</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 10, 2015, at 2:07 PM, Machado <<a href="mailto:machado@SOFTWARELIVRE.ORG" class="">machado@SOFTWARELIVRE.ORG</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">As I have mentioned in Alex's thread, <span style="" class="">I'd like to append to my inquiry a question to the list: </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><span style="" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><span style="" class="">Is there any of you guys using gloss-based SL texts. Does anyone know about some "large*" corpora available in that format? </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><span style="" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><span style="" class="">*large... or else :-) </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><span style="" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><span style="" class="">Best </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Machado</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><font size="1" class="">Machado</font></div></div></div>
<br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Machado <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:machado@softwarelivre.org" target="_blank" class="">machado@softwarelivre.org</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Hello, </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I have noticed for year now we have a very rich set of gospels and other christian bible boks abailable in ASL in <a href="http://signwriting.org/" target="_blank" class="">signwriting.org</a> website. I wonder if I could have access to an SWML-encoded transcript. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I am investigating how comparable is the entropy of writen Sign Languages compared to written spoken languages. So, what I need are source texts available in more than one language(at least one of which should be a sign language). </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Does anyone knows if those bible books are available in an SWML encoded file or if there is other pairs of text available in SWML that i can refer to a parallell text in any written spoken language? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I appreciate any ideas or suggestions</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Best</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><font size="1" class="">Machado</font></div></div></div>
<br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Valerie Sutton <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:signwriting@mac.com" target="_blank" class="">signwriting@mac.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">SignWriting List<div class="">April 3, 2015</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Dear SignWriting List:</div><div class="">We are close to announcing the new SignMaker 2015 for iPad, iPhone and computer desktops. It will be announced hopefully by the end of next week.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">But we need your help …</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We want to have the user interface available in as many spoken languages and sign languages as possible…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Today, I am writing to ask for the spoken language translations of the terms listed below. We would love to include as many spoken languages as possible.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Can you send us, here on the SignWriting List, the translation of these terms in your spoken language?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Many thanks for your help… all languages are welcome ...</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">PLEASE TRANSLATE THIS INTO YOUR SPOKEN LANGUAGE:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class="">language: 'English',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> signtext: 'SignText',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> signmaker: 'SignMaker',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> lastPage: </div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> nextPage: </div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> prevPage: </div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> firstPage:</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> moveLeft:</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> moveUp: </div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> moveDown:</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> moveRight:</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> copy: 'Copy',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> mirror: 'Mirror',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> center: 'Center',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> delete: 'Delete',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> rotateCCW: 'Rotate -',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> rotateCW: 'Rotate +',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> selectPrev: 'Select Prev',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> selectNext: 'Select Next',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> undo: 'Undo',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> redo: 'Redo',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> fillPrev: 'Fill -',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> fillNext: 'Fill +',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> variationPrev: 'Variation -',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> variationNext: 'Variation +',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> placeOver: 'Place Over',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> clearAll: 'Clear All',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> clearEntry: 'Clear Entry',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> updateEntry: 'Update Entry',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> saveNewEntry: 'Save New Entry',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> deleteEntry: 'Delete Entry',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> signLanguage: 'Sign Language',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> spokenLanguage: 'Spoken Language',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> sameSymbols: 'Same Symbols',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> sameSymbolsLocation: 'Same Symbols Location',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> sameSymbolsSorted: 'Same Symbols Sorted',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> baseSymbols: 'Base Symbols',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> baseSymbolsLocation: 'Base Symbols Location',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> baseSymbolsSorted: 'Base Symbols Sorted',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> pngImage: 'PNG Image',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> svgImage: 'SVG Image',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> preferences: 'Preferences',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> system: 'System',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> size: 'Size',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> line: 'Line',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> fill: 'Fill',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> download: 'Download',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> grid0: 'Grid 0',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> grid1: 'Grid 1',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> grid2: 'Grid 2',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> blackOnWhite: 'Black on White',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> whiteOnBlack: 'White on Black',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> colorful: 'Colorful',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> reloadDictionary: 'Reload Dictionary',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> emptyDictionary: 'Empty Dictionary',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> restoreDictionary: 'Restore Dictionary',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> exportDictionary: 'Export Dictionary',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> editTab: 'Edit',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> dictionaryTab: 'Dictionary',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> searchTab: 'Search',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> moreTab: 'More',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> top: 'Top',</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier" class=""> previous: 'Previous',</div></div></div>________________________________________________
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