<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">THANK YOU, Stefan! This was a wonderful presentation and I think the best you have ever done!! People can see how wonderful the DELEGS Editor software is for Deaf students!! THANK YOU!<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 22, 2015, at 8:54 AM, Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway <<a href="mailto:erhoffma@OBERLIN.EDU" class="">erhoffma@OBERLIN.EDU</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">Again, enjoying watching from home!<br class=""></div>Just chiming in to say that I've had the pleasure to see in person Stefan's students working with this program and was very impressed with how effective it is. <br class=""></div>One nice thing is that Stefan not only asks them to use the program to compare DGS and German, but also to compare DGS with Signed German. In this way, even if students use Signed German as a bridge for understanding German grammar, they can also clearly see how DGS grammar differs from Signed German. <br class=""></div>Thus, the use of Signed German in this context need not undermine students' acquisition of Signed German. :)<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:erhoffma@oberlin.edu" target="_blank" class="">erhoffma@oberlin.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Thanks Valerie! It's not so much that I want to develop an efficient or QWERTY keyboard, just that I was curious whether Yair started from one of those principles. :) <br class=""></div>Like you, I've used differently arranged keyboards in different countries and I imagine it's mostly a matter of developing habits that make typing efficient. <br class=""></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Stefan Woehrmann <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:stefanwoehrmann@googlemail.com" target="_blank" class="">stefanwoehrmann@googlemail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">Hi - I'm enjoying the presentation from home. I'm not sure
how to ask questions live..;-((( <br class=""><br class=""></div>Would it be possible to get a demonstration on how long it takes to write a sentence with this keypoard without using a dictionary in the background? <br class=""><br class=""></div>Can you write the sentence in ASL "SignWriting is a wonderful invention." <br class=""><br class=""></div>All best Stefan<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">2015-07-21 17:32 GMT+02:00 Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:erhoffma@oberlin.edu" target="_blank" class="">erhoffma@oberlin.edu</a>></span>:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">Hi all! I'm enjoying the presentation from home. I'm not sure
how to ask questions live (and I remember the difficulties caused last
year when too many people tried to participate at once), so I thought
I'd post questions here, to be answered later at people's convenience.<br class=""><div class="">So,
Yair, this is really great. A quick question: in setting up the
keyboard, how did you decide where to place different elements on the
split board? I'm interested in the physical skill/habits involved in
typing. Given that this is a different type of writing system, I'm
wondering what research you might have done to come up with a layout
that might be physically efficient, or perhaps intuitive for those
accustomed to using a qwerty keyboard, or whether there were other kinds
of considerations.<br class=""></div>Thanks!</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Valerie Sutton <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:signwriting@mac.com" target="_blank" class="">signwriting@mac.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">SignWriting List<div class="">June 30, 2015</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span id="cid:5C3D7D7D-D3E7-4B08-B49B-63600ACCAA5E"><SignWriting_Symposium_2015_Logo_2.jpg></span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(0,86,214)" class=""><b class=""><font size="4" class="">SignWriting Symposium 2015</font></b></div><div style="margin:0px" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px" class="">12 presentations from 8 countries: </div><div style="margin:0px" class="">Brazil, Canada, Germany, Nicaragua, Portugual, Saudi Arabia, Tunisia, USA</div><div style="margin:0px" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px" class="">Broadcasting 3 presentations a day, for 4 days.</div><div style="margin:0px" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="color:rgb(0,86,214)" class=""><b class="">Day 1: </b></span><span style="font-size:18px" class="">July 21</span></div><div style="margin:0px" class=""><b class="">Session 1: </b>CANADA: Yair Rand</div><div style="margin:0px" class=""><b class="">Session 2: </b>SAUDI ARABIA:<b class=""> </b>Mohamed AbuShaira & <span style="color:rgb(20,25,35)" class="">Abd elraroof Mahfooz</span></div><div style="margin:0px" class=""><b class="">Session 3: </b>USA:<b class=""> </b>Stephen E. Slevinski, Jr.</div><div style="margin:0px;min-height:19px" class=""><b class=""></b><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(0,86,214);min-height:19px" class=""><b class=""></b><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:18px" class=""><span style="color:#0056d6" class=""><b class="">Day 2: </b></span>July 22</div><div style="margin:0px" class=""><b class="">Session 1:</b> GERMANY: Stefan Woehrmann</div><div style="margin:0px" class=""><b class="">Session 2:</b> CANADA: André Lemyre</div><div style="margin:0px" class=""><b class="">Session 3: </b>BRAZIL: Marcos Kluber Kogut</div><div style="margin:0px;min-height:19px" class=""><b class=""></b><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;color:rgb(0,86,214);min-height:19px" class=""><b class=""></b><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:18px" class=""><span style="color:#0056d6" class=""><b class="">Day 3: </b></span>July 23</div><div style="margin:0px" class=""><b class="">Session 1:</b> PORTUGAL: Rafaela Cota de Silva</div><div style="margin:0px" class=""><b class="">Session 2: </b>BRAZIL: Ronnie Fagundes de Brito, Messias Ramos Costa, Milton Shintaku, Sandra Patricia Nascimento</div><div style="margin:0px" class=""><b class="">Session 3: </b>USA:<b class=""> </b>Stephen E. Slevinski, Jr.</div><div style="margin:0px;min-height:19px" class=""><b class=""></b><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;min-height:19px" class=""><b class=""></b><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:18px" class=""><span style="color:#0056d6" class=""><b class="">Day 4: </b></span>July 24</div><div style="margin:0px" class=""><b class="">Session 1:</b> NICARAGUA & USA: James Shepard-Kegl</div><div style="margin:0px;font-family:Tahoma" class=""><span style="font-family:Helvetica" class=""><b class="">Session 2: </b>GERMANY: Paul<b class=""> </b>Rutrecht, </span>Joachim Nitschke, Janina Lentfohr</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:18px;font-family:Calibri" class=""><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><b class="">Session 3: </b></span>TUNISIA: Mohamed Ali Khenissi & Yosra Bouzid</div></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:18px;font-family:Calibri" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:18px;font-family:Calibri" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:18px;font-family:Calibri" class="">———————————————————————————</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:18px;font-family:Calibri" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:18px;font-family:Calibri" class=""><b style="color:rgb(0,86,214);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:16px" class=""><font size="4" class="">Time Zones of Sessions:</font></b></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:18px;font-family:Calibri" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:18px;font-family:Calibri" class=""><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:16px" class="">Broadcasting 3 presentations a day, for 4 days.</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:18px;font-family:Calibri" class=""><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:16px" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:18px;font-family:Calibri" class=""><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><span style="color:#0056d6" class=""><b class="">PDT - Pacific Daylight Time</b></span> (La Jolla is in San Diego County, California)</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><b class="">Session 1: 8:00 - 9:00</b></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""> Break: 9:00 - 9:30</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><b class="">Session 2: 9:30 -10:30</b></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""> Break: 10:30 - 11:00</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><b class="">Session 3: 11:00 -12:00</b></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica;min-height:19px" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica;color:rgb(0,86,214);min-height:19px" class=""><b class=""></b><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><span style="color:#0056d6" class=""><b class="">CST - Central Standard Time </b></span>(Nicaragua is 1 hour ahead of San Diego)</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><b class="">Session 1: 9:00 - 10:00</b></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""> Break: 10:00 - 10:30</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><b class="">Session 2: 10:30 -11:30</b></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""> Break: 11:30 - 12:00</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><b class="">Session 3: 12:00 -13:00</b></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica;min-height:19px" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica;color:rgb(0,86,214);min-height:19px" class=""><b class=""></b><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><span style="color:#0056d6" class=""><b class="">CDT - Central Daylight Time</b></span> (Iowa is 2 hours ahead of San Diego))</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><b class="">Session 1: 10:00 - 11:00</b></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""> Break: 11:00 -11:30</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><b class="">Session 2: 11:30 -12:30</b></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""> Break: 12:30 - 13:00</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><b class="">Session 3: 13:00 -14:00</b></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica;min-height:19px" class=""><b class=""></b><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica;color:rgb(0,86,214);min-height:19px" class=""><b class=""></b><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><span style="color:#0056d6" class=""><b class="">EDT - Eastern Daylight Time</b></span> (Maine, Canada, Quebec are 3 hours ahead of San Diego))</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><b class="">Session 1: 11:00 - 12:00</b></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""> Break: 12:00 - 12:30</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><b class="">Session 2: 12:30 -13:30</b></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""> Break: 13:30 - 14:00</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><b class="">Session 3: 14:00 -15:00</b></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica;min-height:19px" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica;color:rgb(0,86,214);min-height:19px" class=""><b class=""></b><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><span style="color:#0056d6" class=""><b class="">BRT - Brazilia Time</b></span> ( Florianópolis, Santa Catarina, Brazil is 4 hours ahead of San Diego)</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><b class="">Session 1: 12:00 - 13:00</b></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""> Break: 13:00 - 13:30</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><b class="">Session 2: 13:30 -14:30</b></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""> Break: 14:30 - 15:00</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><b class="">Session 3: 15:00 -16:00</b></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica;min-height:19px" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica;color:rgb(0,86,214);min-height:19px" class=""><b class=""></b><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><span style="color:#0056d6" class=""><b class="">WEST - Western European Summer Time</b></span> (Portugal & Tunisia are 8 hours ahead of San Diego)</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><b class="">Session 1: 16:00 - 17:00</b></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""> Break: 17:00 - 17:30</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""><b class="">Session 2: 17:30 -18:30</b></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica" class=""> Break: 18:30 - 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