<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">SignWriting List<div class="">February 25, 2016</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hello André and Valdenir -</div><div class="">As you know, SignWriting is a way to read and write any sign language. Teachers and students who know the sign language then write the language they know.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I personally am not an expert on any one sign language - I am providing the tools to write any sign language, but it takes someone who knows the sign language to be able to write that specific language.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Although I sign using ASL signs with my co-workers, I am not an expert in ASL classifiers. So I can teach you how to write them, if an ASL signers shows them to me.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So I cannot teach you ASL classifiers personally, Valdenir...but maybe we can find someone who knows ASL who can help you -</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There are members of our SignWriting List who are skilled ASL teachers and also students of ASL too, who could show us the ASL classifiers... Will anyone volunteer to help us write ASL classifiers here on the List? Then I would be delighted to write them for you here on the List - or we can write them together -</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">André - where are you getting the classifier information from? Can you show us the book or writing of ASL classifiers you found?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Val ;-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 24, 2016, at 6:48 PM, André L <<a href="mailto:andre-andre@hotmail.ca" class="">andre-andre@HOTMAIL.CA</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Hello Valdenir,</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">I wanted to prepare a document on classifiers and specifiers of size and shapes with SignWriting.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">I can share the preliminary material I assembled.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Please contact me directly.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">André Lemyre<br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><br class=""><div style="" class=""><hr tabindex="-1" style="display: inline-block; width: 637.96875px;" class=""><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><b class="">De :</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages <<a href="mailto:SW-L@listserv.valenciacollege.edu" class="">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>> de la part de Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:signwriting@mac.com" class="">signwriting@MAC.COM</a>><br class=""><b class="">Envoyé :</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>24 février 2016 17:26<br class=""><b class="">À :</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:SW-L@listserv.valenciacollege.edu" class="">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a><br class=""><b class="">Objet :</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Writing ASL Classifiers in SignWriting</font><div class=""> </div></div><div class=""><div class="">SignWriting List</div><div class="">February 24, 2016</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 24, 2016, at 1:36 PM, Valdenir Pinheiro <<a href="mailto:prof.tils@gmail.com" class="">prof.tils@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="">good afternoon</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="">Valerie</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="">prof</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="">and colleagues</span><br class=""><span class="">I'm curious</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="">to learn</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="">ASL</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="">classifiers</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="">in sign</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="">writing.</span><br class=""><span class="">can you help me?</span><br class=""><span class="">email</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class=""><a href="mailto:prof.tils@gmail.com" class="">prof.tils@gmail.com</a></span></span></div></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div class="">------------------------------------------</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hello Valdenir Pinheiro!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you for this question.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There are two issues ...learning ASL classifiers, and then learning how to write classifiers in SignWriting.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regarding writing classifiers in SignWriting, we add a Classifier Marker, a Tension Symbol, under the classifier. This symbol combined with the handshape let's the reader know that it is a classifier. This is explained on page 184 and 185 in the Lessons in SignWriting Textbook. See 2 attached diagrams from the book:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span id="cid:D3363DEF-D8C7-42CC-A967-55DC49662586"><Classifiers_p1.png></span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span id="cid:8818D627-12D4-4BCA-9EDB-1DE7229F4AB3"><Classifiers_p2.png></span></div>________________________________________________<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""></p><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" class="">sutton@signwriting.org</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Post Messages to the SignWriting List:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu" class="">sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">SignWriting List Archives & Home Page<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist" class="">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1" class="">http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1</a></div></div></div></div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">________________________________________________</span><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""></p><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" class="">sutton@signwriting.org</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Post Messages to the SignWriting List:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu" class="">sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu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