<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:24px">My greatest objection to describing classifiers using English orthography CL-1 is what happens if you don't know that 1 is the index finger and you are talking about LIBRAS in which some dialects a CL-1 would be a thumb. That's why I much prefer SignWriting because then the written orthography of English does not rub off on the sign, like the conversation that the sign KILL can use the index finger, but KILL is not a classifier, the index finger is. 1 = index finger is not universal, and with SignWriting that can never happen. If you mean the index finger, that's what you write. <br><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456453903896_5198"> </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456453903896_5199" class="signature">Charles Butler chazzer3332000@yahoo.com 240-764-5748 Clear writing moves business forward.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456453903896_5200" class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456453903896_5204" class="yahoo_quoted">  <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456453903896_5203" style="font-family: bookman old style, new york, times, serif; font-size: 24px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456453903896_5202" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456453903896_5201" dir="ltr"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456453903896_5205" face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Valerie Sutton <signwriting@MAC.COM><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February 25, 2016 9:26 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Writing ASL Classifiers in SignWriting<br> </font> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456453903896_5206" class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv6378144448"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456453903896_5207">SignWriting List<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456453903896_5208" class="yiv6378144448">Feb 25, 2016</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456453903896_5209" class="yiv6378144448"><br class="yiv6378144448" clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456453903896_5210" class="yiv6378144448">Thank you, André, for this great information! Wonderful links. I particularly like this one:</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456453903896_5211" class="yiv6378144448"><br class="yiv6378144448" clear="none"></div><div class="yiv6378144448"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6378144448" target="_blank" href="http://www.lifeprint.com/asl101/pages-signs/classifiers/classifiers-frame.htm">http://www.lifeprint.com/asl101/pages-signs/classifiers/classifiers-frame.htm</a></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456453903896_5212" class="yiv6378144448"><br class="yiv6378144448" clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456453903896_5213" class="yiv6378144448">It lists all the classifiers on the left side and you can click on them to see examples - well done!</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456453903896_5214" class="yiv6378144448"><br class="yiv6378144448" clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456453903896_5215" class="yiv6378144448">So now there is no need for me to make up a listing -</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456453903896_5216" class="yiv6378144448"><br class="yiv6378144448" clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456453903896_5217" class="yiv6378144448">Valdenir - take a look at the above page...I hope this helps -</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456453903896_5218" class="yiv6378144448"><br class="yiv6378144448" clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1456453903896_5219" class="yiv6378144448">Val ;-)</div><div class="yiv6378144448"><br class="yiv6378144448" clear="none"></div><div class="yiv6378144448">-------</div><div class="yiv6378144448"><br class="yiv6378144448" clear="none"></div><div class="yiv6378144448yqt9454879198" id="yiv6378144448yqt21078"><div class="yiv6378144448"><br class="yiv6378144448" clear="none"><div><blockquote class="yiv6378144448" type="cite"><div class="yiv6378144448">On Feb 25, 2016, at 5:59 PM, André L <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6378144448" ymailto="mailto:andre-andre@hotmail.ca" target="_blank" href="mailto:andre-andre@hotmail.ca">andre-andre@HOTMAIL.CA</a>> wrote:</div><br class="yiv6378144448Apple-interchange-newline" clear="none"><div class="yiv6378144448"><div class="yiv6378144448" id="yiv6378144448divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-size:12pt;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div class="yiv6378144448" style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">Hello,</div><div class="yiv6378144448" style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">here are very detailed web sites about classifiers:</div><div class="yiv637814444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