<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">SignWriting List</div><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">January 15, 2017</div><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Charles!</div><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Great to hear from you.</div><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Congratulations on succeeding with using SignWriting (as graphics) as a part of the Socrative program... </div><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">So you are using SignWriting as a part of the "Teaching as Research Project" at Howard University School of Education? or at least in part, during testing discussions? - that is good news, Charles -</div><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thanks for all you are doing -</div><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">2017 is going to be a great year!</div><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Val ;-)</div><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">------------</div><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 13, 2017, at 12:49 PM, Charles Butler <<a href="mailto:00000009c7c21417-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU" class="">00000009c7c21417-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 24px;" class=""><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1484340393047_9253" dir="ltr" class=""><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1484340393047_9271" class="">I have been successfully able to use signwriting .png graphics in Socrative, a testing program for assembling multiple choice, yes/no, and short answer questions. The discussion field at the top takes graphics so I am using to assemble the classes for the Teaching as Research Project I'm doing for Howard University School of Education. </span></div><div class=""></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1484340393047_9397" class=""> </div><div class="signature" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1484340393047_9398">Charles Butler <a href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com" class="">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a> 240-764-5748 Clear writing moves business forward.</div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: bookman old style, new york, times, serif; font-size: 24px;" class=""> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" class=""> <div dir="ltr" class=""><font size="2" face="Arial" class=""> On Friday, January 13, 2017 1:29 PM, Valerie Sutton <<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