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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Charles, I see you are using the diagonal arrows which make sense. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Looking just at the right hand, since the left is a mirror image, your handshape has the backs of the hands facing up, and slanted to the right. The fingers are pointing right-out, but not down (I think). <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>What I want to know is whether it is possible to show the orientation of the hands so that the right hand fingers point down-right-out. I know that the hands can slant in two dimensions – right-out, right-down, right-up etc. I think there is no way to show an orientation that slants in three dimensions, but I’m hoping im wrong.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Rachel<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Charles Butler<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 13, 2018 10:54 AM<br><b>To:</b> SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Question on hand orientation<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1515857431784_14691"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif;color:black'>Here's my stab at it in situ with showing an egg splattering and dripping down. The hands are spread out like rain but the directional arrow goes down and out. Else one would need a side view to write it. Drawing the arrow next to the hand confuses me but as a motion arrow this is my best dissection. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1515857431784_14691"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1515857431784_14691"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif;color:black'><img id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1515857431784_14921" src="http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/glyphogram.php?text=M52x47S11541n3xn47S11549n21xn45S2a21cn24xn13S2a2042xn14S14c5723x20S14c5fn44x18S2550533xn7S25513n52xn7&pad=10&name=splatter"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1515857431784_14692"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1515857431784_14745"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif;color:black'>Charles Butler <a href="mailto:chazzer3332000@yahoo.com">chazzer3332000@yahoo.com</a> 240-764-5748 Clear writing moves business forward.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1515857431784_14746"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:.25in;background:white'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1515857431784_14752"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1515857431784_14751"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1515857431784_14750"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1515857431784_14749"><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> "<a href="mailto:rchannon1@VERIZON.NET">rchannon1@VERIZON.NET</a>" <<a href="mailto:rchannon1@VERIZON.NET">rchannon1@VERIZON.NET</a>><br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU">SW-L@LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 12, 2018 8:23 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Question on hand orientation</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1515857431784_14878"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yiv7983007464><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Hi everyone, I have a sign in our SignTyp project that shows the hands tilted down, backs up with fingers lower than the heel of the palm. Here is the screengrab from the video:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><img border=0 width=624 height=407 style='width:6.5in;height:4.2361in' id="yiv7983007464Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image001.png@01D38C6E.781FAF70" alt="Screen Clipping"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>How would you write this orientation to show that the fingers are lower than the wrist? For this sign EGG, it means that the uncooked eggs are spreading out, falling down and kind of splattering all over. If the hands were straight out, I don’t think it would have the same meaning, so I want to have the orientation show that if possible.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Thank you!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Rachel <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>________________________________________________ <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator <a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" target="_blank">sutton@signwriting.org</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1515857431784_14883"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Post Messages to the SignWriting List: <a href="mailto:sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu" target="_blank">sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1515857431784_14881"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>SignWriting List Archives & Home Page <a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist" target="_blank">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1515857431784_14879"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages <a href="http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1" target="_blank">http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>________________________________________________ <o:p></o:p></p><p>SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION <o:p></o:p></p><p>Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator <a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org">sutton@signwriting.org</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p>Post Messages to the SignWriting List: <a href="mailto:sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu">sw-l@listserv.valenciacollege.edu</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p>SignWriting List Archives & Home Page <a href="http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist" target="_blank">http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p>Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages <a href="http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1" target="_blank">http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>
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